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07-04-2015, 04:38 PM
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Hi Tim,
You have interesting questions about populations. The pop reports for all of the grading companies are a complete mess, so i wouldn't rely on them. Here is my completely flying by the seat of my pants numbers: T214 - only 63 of the possible 90 cards are known to exist. I would guess that only 1 to 3 cards of each of the 63 are known to exist. T215-1 and 2 - my guess is between 1 and 6 or so of each of the known cards. You might find a few players with slightly more than 6, but I doubt it. Compare this to 1000 examples or more, of many of the T206 cards. I hope others who are more knowledgeable than me will chime in with their estimates. Rick
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07-04-2015, 05:10 PM
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Rick makes an excellent point about the population reports. The T215 types are frequently mislabeled. Heck, I believe someone once posted a T215 labeled as a T206. (Although that might make some people happy.
 )I don't know much about T214, but I'd figure his estimates are reasonable for T215. It might be that there are a number of raw examples in collections. Cheers, Steve Quote:
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07-05-2015, 10:03 AM
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Is there a way to estimate who ought to be featured on the remaining 27 cards using T206 print groups? I know there might have been some substitutions based on retirements and deaths, but I was curious how the known T214 examples line up with the different print groups.
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07-05-2015, 12:00 PM
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I'm not an expert on this set, but the T214s were printed four years after t206s. I don't think they followed the T206 print groups.
I recall Tim making this point about the T213 and T215 sets, and I think it holds true for the T214s as well. Sorry, I can't find that thread. 
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07-05-2015, 01:37 PM
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Well, just to be safe and since this is my thread, I fully authorize everyone to hijack it with any T cards after T212  . 
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07-05-2015, 02:48 PM
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Someone on here bought this one from me awhile back
Neal Ball T215 ... in a mislabeled holder.
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07-05-2015, 12:38 PM
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Thanks Sean. I was aware of the 1915 date for T214 but I am not one who hesitates to fire away with the questions when something pops into my head! It makes perfect sense that there isn't a match and if there was one I suspect someone would have figured it out. To quote the bank robber from Dirty Harry "I gots to know."
Pete, I was wondering the same thing myself (though I love T213-1 so don't mind it too much). Quote:
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07-05-2015, 05:28 PM
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Hi Sean
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Timeline ............... 1910 .................................................. .................. 1913 .................................................. ............ 1919 ............................................... 1914       TED Z .
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07-05-2015, 05:52 PM
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Nice cards Bruce, especially like the Red Cross Meyers. That's always been a favorite pose of mine. That was one of the few Meyers Portraits that eluded me.
Ted, great cards as well. My best to you and your family.
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07-05-2015, 09:44 PM
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Thanks for the info
Rick and others,
Thanks for some information on these rarer t sets. It sounds as if Rick' s estimates fit in with others' thinking. Great to see so many awesome looking Victory backs! Tim
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08-11-2022, 10:12 PM
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Came across this awesome thread and thought I’d bump it- anyone got anything to add?
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08-11-2022, 10:17 PM
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Beautiful cards. Only thing I can add is I'd love to add a Victory and a Red Cross to my collection, so if you're a seller, I'm a buyer.
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08-11-2022, 10:21 PM
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Hi Phil. I recently sold my extra t214 (a bender) and my extra t215 (Marquard throwing). Now all I have is one example of each. You know I like having an HOF example of most rare type cards…
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08-11-2022, 10:22 PM
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But I take the Buddhist approach, my cards will come to me when they're ready. That and when my budget allows. Last edited by Casey2296; 08-11-2022 at 10:25 PM.
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08-11-2022, 11:41 PM
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My T215-1 and T215-2 type cards:
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