Battersbox

[ALR-bishop]

If I sent back 4 cards to the same seller in a short time span it would not surprise me that the seller might decide my business was too high maintenance to retain.

[ibuysportsephemera]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

If I sent back 4 cards to the same seller in a short time span it would not surprise me that the seller might decide my business was too high maintenance to retain.

+1...I have blocked bidders for a lot less than 4 returns.

Jeff

[CamaroDMD]

If I was a seller and I had a buyer return 4 separate purchases in a short period of time, I'd probably block them too. Yes, they do have a return policy in place...but from what I can tell, their auctions have good photos and clear descriptions. The occasional return is one thing...but they have to run a business and that becomes really challenging if a buyer is constantly returning inventory after purchase.

At some point, the seller will have to cut ties with that buyer because doing business with them is not profitable. I'd imagine they reached that point in this case.

[pokerplyr80]

Not much to say that hasn't been said, but yes I would also block a buyer who returned 4 cards.

[Beatles Guy]

To echo everyone's previous comments, I'd probably block you too. I'm about as generous as you can be when it comes to returns, but four with a seller in a short period of time just because they didn't grade out like you'd hoped? I'd be aggravated.

As for the seller, I've returned one thing to them and had a pleasant experience thereafter.

[autograf]

Ditto on the blocks..........I've bought TONS from Battersbox and find them to provide great scans and great service. Were the MK's on higher grade stuff or lower grade stuff? They are a huge operation and shipping high $ cards back and forth frequently would make it somewhat difficult. Plus there's the issue of who eats the shipping each way, etc.....good luck with whatever you decide to do.

[jrawlsian]

Originally Posted by autograf

Ditto on the blocks..........I've bought TONS from Battersbox and find them to provide great scans and great service. Were the MK's on higher grade stuff or lower grade stuff? They are a huge operation and shipping high $ cards back and forth frequently would make it somewhat difficult. Plus there's the issue of who eats the shipping each way, etc.....good luck with whatever you decide to do.

Lower-grade MKs- but see my post above about the 1951 Bowman Ford they sold me with no scan of the back that had writing on it.

[jrawlsian]

Originally Posted by Beatles Guy

To echo everyone's previous comments, I'd probably block you too. I'm about as generous as you can be when it comes to returns, but four with a seller in a short period of time just because they didn't grade out like you'd hoped? I'd be aggravated.

As for the seller, I've returned one thing to them and had a pleasant experience thereafter.

Then as a seller don't peddle questionable raw cards that you know or should know are lower grades than you're selling them for. Furthermore, if you're tolerant as they come, then you're not going to block a buyer based on otherwise-cordial transactions, or are you? Finally, how much is 5 minutes of aggravation worth? If you value 5 minutes of annoyance more than $500, then go for it. My biggest criticism of the industry is rampant overselling practices both in brick-and-mortar and online but especially online.

[Beatles Guy]

Originally Posted by jrawlsian

Then as a seller don't peddle questionable raw cards that you know or should know are lower grades than you're selling them for. Furthermore, if you're tolerant as they come, then you're not going to block a buyer based on otherwise-cordial transactions, or are you? Finally, how much is 5 minutes of aggravation worth? If you value 5 minutes of annoyance more than $500, then go for it. My biggest criticism of the industry is rampant overselling practices both in brick-and-mortar and online but especially online.

If a buyer returns a card to me because I overlooked something then that is not a problem. I have offered to refund the full amount to a customer and let them keep the item on a couple of occasions. I post clear and concise scans of all my cards to try and avoid returns, but it does happen. Having a buyer repeatedly buy items and return them because they didn't grade out like they wanted is a problem. If a card gets to you in the shape you expected but doesn't grade high enough for you, do you return it?

It's not aggravation to me if someone returns a card because of my mistake, it is aggravation if I have to deal with returns on several transactions with the same buyer because a TPG graded the cards a 4 instead of a 5.

Why do you insist on buying from Battersbox if they won't provide a back scan at your request? Why do you continue to buy from them if you have been burned on more than one occasion?

[K-Nole]

I would absolutely block a buyer that returned as much as this.

I have bought hundreds of $ from BattersBox and never had a problem.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by ibuysportsephemera

+1...I have blocked bidders for a lot less than 4 returns.

Jeff

+2....I too would block a buyer who consistently has buyer's remorse and returned a significant portion of the dollar amount they had purchased. As a seller, if I miss something on a card, I own it, accept the return and appreciate any repeat business . However, if a buyer repeatedly has subjective differences about cards (buyer's remorse) and they abuse the return policy, I feel it is best to block them so that I do not further disappoint them by sending any more inferior cards and focus my attention on the 99.99% of buyers who actually keep the cards I sell.

Since I buy much more than I sell, I can understand why the few times I have been blocked by a seller subsequent to returning grossly over-graded raw product. Not likely I would ever buy from that seller again anyway...I am actually appreciative that I am blocked as I wont make a mistake again by buying from the seller in question.

My recommendation to buyers with repeated subjective differences with online purchases is to either buy the card after it is in hand (at a show), or stick to buying graded cards.

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

If I sent back 4 cards to the same seller in a short time span it would not surprise me that the seller might decide my business was too high maintenance to retain.

+1. For me, the time to buy older ungraded cards and expect them to receive a high TPG grade expired with the '90's--I used to do it then, purchasing at shows, and carrying a 16X power loupe to rule out trimmed cards by examining the edges.

Best of luck in your pursuit, though,

Larry