clearly not Bray ACC

[1880nonsports]

would be that unless Bray was illiterate - the "printing" of one's name doesn't make for a signature. That said - it still would be an important item if it could be proven it belonged to Bray and the notations were in his hand. Hoping you have more of an answer as I certainly respect your thoughts and opinions - at times perhaps more than my own.....

[Leon]

Originally Posted by 1880nonsports

would be that unless Bray was illiterate - the "printing" of one's name doesn't make for a signature. That said - it still would be an important item if it could be proven it belonged to Bray and the notations were in his hand. Hoping you have more of an answer as I certainly respect your thoughts and opinions - at times perhaps more than my own.....

Hi Henry
I am pretty sure that is Bray's handwriting at the front of the ACC. I will be able to more confirm it in a few days. The exemplars online don't really show anything but cursive. I showed the copy I own now, Dr. Lowe's personal copy, to show that writing over a name or owner was probably common in some circles. That all being said I trust the seller. He is also the one I got the Burdick Letter from and Walt Corsons own hobby publications. And I realize just because the seller is a good guy and probably knew Bray, all of that doesn't make it a Bray copy. I bet I can probably get more info too.

[1880nonsports]

I probably should have followed up with the seller but he never gave me any concrete answers. I look forward to hearing more about the book (or even the good doctor :-)). Part of what makes this hobby for me is "the behind the scenes" stuff - same thing I enjoyed when working at the Metropolitan Opera.....

[Leon]

Originally Posted by 1880nonsports

I probably should have followed up with the seller but he never gave me any concrete answers. I look forward to hearing more about the book (or even the good doctor :-)). Part of what makes this hobby for me is "the behind the scenes" stuff - same thing I enjoyed when working at the Metropolitan Opera.....

I PM'd his son, a board member for approx. 10 yrs, to see if he can get some more info from his dad.....LL

On a hobby pub related note, I got the shipping tracking from Hunt on the John Wagner publications, including 15-20 Burdick letters...and the weight for the 10 lots of pubs (only 1-2 small books the rest letters etc....) is 18 lbs. . I am going to have some fun next week....

[buchner]

I have a few short notes from Charlie Bray back in the 70's, have no idea what his printed name would look like, but his signature does not look like the name on the ACC. I'm afraid I don't have a scanner, but could supply photocopies. Henry knows me, so hopefully he'll vouch for me unless he still blames me for him losing his Indian poster. I knew Mr. Bray as I went to is house often when he had his auctions. One of the nicest persons I ever met. Hope this helps a little. John

[1880nonsports]

Always a pleasure to speak to you in between like every 10 years We should stay in touch - hmoses2@comcast.net and I think you have my phone number should your email not function! Off topic - but never know if we'' speak - guy on non-sport side just picked up a cabinet sized premium? of the gilded lily (langtry) real photo mounted on a pear's soap card. Do you still collect them (if the right thing) along with your super baseball collection?

[1880nonsports]

and looked at the listing again -I had really only concentrated on what the seller called a signature. Few other things seem a bit strange to me in going back. The owner only made a few notes (apparently inside the front cover) and they were in no way connected to the plethora of sets he would have been interested in. No notes were made on the inside pages (at least not from the scans) what would presumably be a working copy. Unless he was in love with himself and where he was in his life - someone else wrote that name on the last page. Whether he owned it or not at any point I would suppose is still up in the air. Unless the good doctor can attest that he received it from Bray - or the handwriting can be closely identified with his known handwriting - each step beyond that increases "the leap of faith". I have no problem believing what he might say - as long as there's clarity as to exactly what the contention is......