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Everybody knows the Crapinals cheat. How else would they get to the post season so many times in the last few years? :-)
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Favorite MLB quote. " I knew we could find a place to hide you". Lee Smith talking about my catching abilities at Cubs Fantasy camp. |
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wouldn't you think we would steal from someone in our own division, or better yet, a club that wins?
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Luhnow, the Astros GM, was a Cardinal front office guy who helped them build one of the best minor league systems in baseball during a time when they quit trading prospects for rental players. He was not all that popular but very successful. In 2011 he took his system to Houston and the results there are starting to pay off. My hope is that it will be a grudge deal with someone not high up in the organization, but time will tell.
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maybe the Crapinals were hacking the Astros system so they could learn how to lose with humility instead of being the cocky team that they currently are? LOL
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Favorite MLB quote. " I knew we could find a place to hide you". Lee Smith talking about my catching abilities at Cubs Fantasy camp. |
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It is interesting the government seems fixated again with fixing all that is wrong with baseball while their own systems are apparently being hacked on a massive scale. Maybe the Cardinals did that too
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Who says the government is only fixated on the Cardinals. I doubt they would have such a myopic view.
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Edward Snowden is probably a Cardinal Fan.....Afterall, they call it the "Cardinal Way"
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Favorite MLB quote. " I knew we could find a place to hide you". Lee Smith talking about my catching abilities at Cubs Fantasy camp. |
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Typical California smack talker.
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Actually I am originally from the Midwest (Peoria Illinois area) and also lived by St. Louis for a while and am quite familiar with the Cardinals. Being from Central Illinois, you are either a Cub fan or a Cards fan. The issue is that the bulk of the Card fans tend to be quite vocal and obnoxious toward Cub fans so talking some smack is allowed after all of the abuse Cardinal fans dish out. If you can't take the heat, get ot of the kitchen as they used to say back home.
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Favorite MLB quote. " I knew we could find a place to hide you". Lee Smith talking about my catching abilities at Cubs Fantasy camp. Last edited by kmac32; 06-17-2015 at 11:28 AM. |
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I don't come on here to have some guy start using pet names for my favorite team. I come to learn a little more about old baseball cards. Please don't talk to me about abuse by Cardinal fans. Cub fans take a back seat to no one in dishing it out. And they are about to have more ammunition with the development of a lot of young position players. I expect they will become unbearable. No pun intended. You have blinders on and think it is ok for Cubs fans to dish it out and no ok for Cardinal fans to fire back. I have spent much time in Chicago setting up at the National and at Sun Times and Fanatics shows. Also used to do the shows in Schaumburg when SCD put on shows there. So I have dealt with plenty of Cubs fans and we get along fine for the most part. We just do business, not talk smack. Here is the latest from the local hacks: DeWitt and Mozeliak put out a strong statement that they did not know about this until approached by the feds about the investigation. This has been ongoing for about a year. They do not know the identity of the individuals involved, but are aware of the seriousness of the situation and expect the guilty party or parties to be punished in whatever manner is deemed appropriate. To me they are in charge and the buck should stop at the top, but rogue employees often do things that their superiors have no knowledge of. If they prove knowledge by high up officials then heads should roll and there should be heavy penalties up to fines and loss of draft picks. At this point everything is speculation, and North Side Baseball, Redzone, and other fan forums are having a field day enjoying the situation the Cardinals find themselves in. The Cardinals will still be around at the end of the day. |
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As for the Cardinals, whoever did it should be fired, even if it goes all the way to the top. There is no excuse for that behavior. I am as big a Cardinal fan there is, but I recognize right from wrong. Winning breeds contempt, I get that. I hated the Yankees of the 90's. But now, as I've gotten older, I have recognized my flawed thinking in respect to those teams. |
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Spot on Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Why the hell would the be stealing info from an American League team ?? This has personal written all over it.
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Interesting article about the potential punishments.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/specu...al-punishment/ |
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Some great insight here. Not really.
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That's fine. Why don't you justify the cyber crime Mr. Cardinal?
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love it. LOL
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Favorite MLB quote. " I knew we could find a place to hide you". Lee Smith talking about my catching abilities at Cubs Fantasy camp. |
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Because I don't generally judge a "crime" until it is proven. You obviously have a closed mind and have no intent of letting the individuals or whoever is involved be presumed innocent until proven guilty. I'm not Mr. Cardinal either Mr. whoever you are.
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"New York Times: The Federal Bureau of Investigation and U.S. federal prosecutors are investigating the St. Louis Cardinals baseball team for hacking into the computers of the Houston Astros to steal closely guarded information about player personnel, The New York Times reported on Tuesday. Compromised information includes internal discussions about trades, proprietary statistics and scouting reports, the Times reported, citing law enforcement officials. There is evidence that officials of the Cardinals, who won the 2006 and 2011 World Series and are one of the sport's most respected franchises, broke into a network of special databases, the report said." Look, I used to like the Cards and I don't even really like NYT but you gotta face facts. "Mr. Whoever You Are." -- Yeah, I'm just another guy in the peanut gallery. Proceed. Last edited by sreader3; 06-16-2015 at 08:52 PM. |
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I think this shows how very Patriotic the Cardinals are.
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I salute you for that one.
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I grew up in a time dominated totally and completely by the New York Yankees. Everyone was taught to hate the Yankees because nobody could beat them. To a degree the success of the Cardinals in recent years has caused some hate in the old Yankee style, from fans in pockets of the country such as Los Angeles and Chicago. You can throw in Kansas City in our own state due to their thirty year slump and the Cardinals fans filling half empty Kaufman Stadium during their down years. So I get the hate. I just don't get the glee from certain individuals about this coming to light. Just keep repeating to yourself Best Fans in Baseball/Cardinal Way over and over till you are in a stupor and maybe you will see the light. I will still be laughing about those media produced labels. But I will not lose a bunch of sleep over what other fan bases think either. Good luck with your favorite team, hope the Cardinals haven't caused embarrassment for you or them. |
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I appreciate your fan(aticism). I am a Rockies fan (a rare breed) and when the Cards come to Coors their fans are often are a majority or close to 50-50. I am just saddened that the Cards, a mid-market team that has had great success, seem to have instigated the MLB "cyber crime" era. At least they were the first team caught and will be remembered as such.
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