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06-16-2015, 04:46 AM
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I'm guessing a 6-6.5 on the '69, and a 7-8 on the '70. The bottom right corner of the '69 is dinged down to maybe a 7, and there is additional edge wear. The '70 looks clean overall, but is OC t/b. Might get a straight 8.
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06-16-2015, 05:04 AM
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almost guarantee an OC ed grade on that '70 from PSA.yes,between a 6 and 7 on the '69.They will screw you and give you a 6 on that '69.Trust me.
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06-16-2015, 08:53 AM
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I believe those corners keep the '69 Ryan at no higher than 5. The '70 is a 6 or 6 (OC) IMO.
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06-16-2015, 01:11 PM
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Not Much to Gain By Grading
The '69 looks nice, but between the corners and the surface scratch to the right of his leg, this card is likely a 5, possibly a 6. No premium over a raw card.
The '70 is a bit nicer and might grade a 7. If it does you'll get a decent premium over a raw card, but not enough to get a you a steak dinner.
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06-16-2015, 01:37 PM
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I'd get em both graded. Both are worth enough, even in the conditions mentioned to be an acceptable risk/reward for the grading cost.
Plus, your cards will be more secure. I had someone spill water on some of my cards this weekend at a show because he was not paying attention. Your cards will be far better off in holders Rich
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06-16-2015, 01:49 PM
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For comparison sake, here are two Ryans I have laying around…
ryans.jpg I know the scan quality isn't too great, but it's clear to see that both of your cards are in better shape than these. So, logically speaking, you should receive better grades on each of your cards…but who would ever think there's actually logic involved at the TPG's???
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06-16-2015, 04:01 PM
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Those cards were graded probably 10+ years ago based on the flips and the grading scale has gotten harder since then. However, I don't think the 1970 card in the first post would get an OC nowadays unless it was a 9(OC). It's not "that" off center, maybe 35/65. Even that would still barely qualify as 9 centering. So I'll upgrade my guess on the 1970 to an 8.
http://www.psacard.com/Services/PSAGradingStandards
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