BGS 9.5 to PSA 10

Peter_Spaeth · #1 06-11-2015, 08:37 AM

In my opinion, a 10 is often an arbitrary grade. I would guess that if you took 50 well centered 9s and 50 10s of the same card and cracked them out and resubmitted, the results would be dramatically different, if not random.

4815162342 · #2 06-11-2015, 09:39 AM

I don't see how it is possible to crack a gem mint card from a slab without causing the minute amount of damage necessary to differentiate a gem mint card from a mint or near-mint-to-mint card. Do you guys employ the services of robot surgeons?

pokerplyr80 · #3 06-11-2015, 11:01 AM

I have quite a few psa 10s of modern cards that would be worth substantially more if they could cross to BGS pristine. Has anyone successfully pulled that off? I would be hesitant to crack myself for obvious reasons.

t206blogcom · #4 06-11-2015, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I have quite a few psa 10s of modern cards that would be worth substantially more if they could cross to BGS pristine.

Why do you feel BGS would be more valuable over PSA 10?

crose · #5 06-12-2015, 11:58 AM

I sent in a 9.5 BGS card before to PSA in the BGS holder and it came back a 10. This was more for my collecting pleasure than an monetary gain the card may have achieved. The card in question was a chrome auto with a 10 centering sub grade and one 9 sub grade can't remember which one though. Maybe I just got lucky.

e107collector · #6 07-01-2015, 01:58 PM

What if all the subgrades on the BGS 9.5 are 9.5 or higher? I would have to think they would cross to a PSA 10. Correct?

Only reason why I ask is that the 3 cards I have are selling for multiples higher in a PSA 10, compared to the BGS 9.5 case they are currently in.

Subs on the BGS 9.5's are 10 centering, 9.5 edges, 9.5 corners, 9.5 surface.

Anyone ever not had a card cross to a PSA 10 with those subs?

Thanks,
Tony

Peter_Spaeth · #7 07-02-2015, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by e107collector

What if all the subgrades on the BGS 9.5 are 9.5 or higher? I would have to think they would cross to a PSA 10. Correct?

Only reason why I ask is that the 3 cards I have are selling for multiples higher in a PSA 10, compared to the BGS 9.5 case they are currently in.

Subs on the BGS 9.5's are 10 centering, 9.5 edges, 9.5 corners, 9.5 surface.

Anyone ever not had a card cross to a PSA 10 with those subs?

Thanks,
Tony

The subs mean nothing. By far the most important for PSA is the state of the corners, and 9.5 corners, in or out of a holder, could easily go either way. These distinctions between Mint and Gem Mint are, in my opinion, often quite arbitrary.

pokerplyr80 · #8 07-02-2015, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by t206blogcom

Why do you feel BGS would be more valuable over PSA 10?

Any card in a BGS 10 is worth far more than a PSA 10 because the grade is supposedly much higher to attain. According to beckett a bgs 9.5 is equivalent to a PSA 10.

Look up any rookie card from the 80s or 90s to see sale price differences. I don't think many if any 70s and earlier cards have been graded BVG 10.

For example when Michael Jordan PSA 10s were selling for 10k BGS 10s were selling for 50k. Currently 89 upper deck griffey rcs are worth around 300 in psa 10 but over 2k in BGS 10. The value is due to limited supply and collector perception.