PWCC Certified High End

[MattyC]

Originally Posted by MetsBaseball1973

Like many here I personally don't need his sticker, but see zero harm in it. I also don't think it will materially impact the cards that receive it, as the mass of collectors know a card with extra eye appeal, and we have seen such cards command premiums far above the historical average price for their grades before Brent's new sticker.

If I send PWCC a consignment and Brent doesn't deem any of my cards worthy of that little sticker, that is just fine by me. If I thought one of my cards deserved the little sticker and he didn't, again, that's his choice, and I won't and can't impose my will on him.

Just because he's giving his opinion doesn't mean his eyes are better than mine. The same can be said of the grading companies. I don't think their eyes are better than mine, either. Just because someone is giving their opinion, doesn't mean their eyes are better, or anyone receiving the opinion thinks the opinion-giver's eyes are better. That's an assumption being made by some that's logically the problem; let Brent or anyone else give their opinion. Some will hear it/see it and agree, some won't. That's the world.

I am also willing to bet that 9 of 10 times or more the cards that receive this little sticker thing will deserve it. Brent sees enough cards to know when one has eye appeal beyond its grade. And such cards deserve a premium over the VCP average for their grade. Brent acknowledging what anyone's eyes can see with a little sticker seems like a total non-issue, to me at least.

I'm with you on this. Don't need the sticker, but don't care either way.

I love cards like the ones that hypothetically would receive this sticker: 4s that look like 6s, etc. I use my own eyes to decide which ones those are, but someone else saying which ones he thinks are special is his choice and right. For example, I agree with his Goudey Ruth but don't agree with his 51B Mick that received the sticker. It's all just opinions. Who cares if they are in the form of a flip, a sticker, or an auction description? The card is the thing and it's always right there for us to look at, just ignore all the opinions and noise and look at the card is what I do.

[jcc6252]

I'm quite sure Yogi would say "PWCC's auctions are so high, no one bids on them anymore."

[Peter_Spaeth]

It's a competitive market to get consignments, so I am sure Brent is just looking for an edge. I personally think it's meaningless, but I don't see any deception in it. I have seen on some of Probstein's higher ticket items slogans such as "looks better than the grade" so it's just more marketing.

[Econteachert205]

To me it's just a glorified business card

[jcc6252]

I find it somewhat pompous and offensive. So now this Seal and Certificate has to follow this card around after PWCC's stickering, or it will lose it's perceived lofty status? And for what? Because PWCC has determined, without full explanation, that it is a "High End" card? Let the buyer decide that. Also, what if you consign an identical card with PWCC, and you don't get the designation? I think you just might lose some bids to the "High End" card. It could easily slant the auction results.

[MattyC]

Originally Posted by jcc6252

I find it somewhat pompous and offensive. So now this Seal and Certificate has to follow this card around after PWCC's stickering, or it will lose it's perceived lofty status? And for what? Because PWCC has determined, without full explanation, that it is a "High End" card? Let the buyer decide that. Also, what if you consign an identical card with PWCC, and you don't get the designation? I think you just might lose some bids to the "High End" card. It could easily slant the auction results.

I don't think a card is going to have a "lofty status" just because of this PWCC sticker, and if the card is indeed high end, it will never lose that deserved status if this little opinion sticker doesn't follow it around. The card never changes if it's truly high end.

The fact is that a great looking card has its status because of itself, not a sticker-- be it from PSA or PWCC. If Card X is indeed high end and does have this sticker, and the owner throws the sticker out-- the card is still awesome and will always command its due premium.

PSA doesn't give an explanation for their stickers either, it's worth noting.

Even if the cards in question did not have this sticker, if the mass of collectors agree the card is high end, such a card will get more bids than lesser-looking examples of the same card in the same auction.

[nolemmings]

To me it's just a glorified business card

+1

Great, now if I win a card from them that they decide is high end I have to clean the GDMF sticker crud off the slab.

Ditto. At a minimum, it's annoying.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Ditto. At a minimum, it's annoying.

Actually, in the CU/PSA thread on this topic, Brent has said that a buyer only has to ask them to remove the sticker before mailing, if that is the request. They will remove it for free before sending it to you. So you don't have to worry about cleaning it off unless you buy it from a middle-man.