Split-personality of the 350/460 series..re: AB460, BL460, SC460, HINDU & UZIT T206's

[tedzan]

I had more of these 460 series double same name cards, but I traded them away. They certainly do lend credence to the fact that these T206's were Double-Printed on their sheet.


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TED Z

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[Pat R]

Ted,

If you're talking about the vertical rows I think most of us would
agree that all the subjects were at least triple printed on most if not
all sheets.The double name, two name, plate scratch ect..... are pretty
good evidence to support this.

Patrick

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Pat R

Ted,

If you're talking about the vertical rows I think most of us would
agree that all the subjects were at least triple printed on most if not
all sheets.The double name, two name, plate scratch ect..... are pretty
good evidence to support this.

Patrick

Pat

Yes, we are all in agreement with this vertical printing format of T206's. But, have you ever seen any evidence of horizontal multiple printing of T206's ?

The back of my T205 Collins confirms that American Litho. also double-printed cards horizontally (at least T205's). Are there any examples of this with T206's ?






TED Z
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[t206hound]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Pat

Yes, we are all in agreement with this vertical printing format of T206's. But, have you ever seen any evidence of horizontal multiple printing of T206's ?

The back of my T205 Collins confirms that American Litho. also double-printed cards horizontally (at least T205's). Are there any examples of this with T206's ?






TED Z
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First off, that's an awesome card.

To the best of my knowledge, there are no known instances of the same subject adjacent horizontally (and until now I hadn't seen a T205 like that). With regards to double printing on a sheet, absence of a side-by-side subject T206 example doesn't necessarily mean it didn't occur; and note that there would also be the possibility of the same subject horizontally, but just not adjacent.

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Pat

Yes, we are all in agreement with this vertical printing format of T206's. But, have you ever seen any evidence of horizontal multiple printing of T206's ?

The back of my T205 Collins confirms that American Litho. also double-printed cards horizontally (at least T205's). Are there any examples of this with T206's ?






TED Z
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Ted,

I haven't seen any evidence of horizontals of the same T206 subject
on a sheet but I certainly wouldn't rule out the possibility.

BTW that Collins is a really neat card.


Patrick

[tedzan]

Yes, it's a "pretty" card in a strange way. Glad you guys like it.

When I acquired this Collins nine years ago, I had to find out which T205 guy was adjacent to it. I must of compared its back to half the cards (100+) in my set with no match.
Then, a "little bird" told me to compare it to the same Collins card in my set. Well I'll be darned.....it matched exactly. This really surprised me, since I never would of guessed
that these cards were double-printed sideways.


Pat & Erick

The only miscut T206 that I know of is the yellow Chance with a hint of the red Cobb to the right of it. Do you guys have a list of all the known miscut T206 fronts that show a
hint of their adjacent cards ?



TED Z
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[t206hound]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Pat & Erick

The only miscut T206 that I know of is the yellow Chance with a hint of the red Cobb to the right of it. Do you guys have a list of all the known miscut T206 fronts that show a
hint of their adjacent cards ?

TED Z
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The primary way we know of adjacency is through ghosts (like the Hartsel-Wilson that I own) and the Lash's overprints, but I've also attached a few of the miscut scans (not mine) that show adjacency. Some of the adjacents are best guesses or unknowns, but they are obviously not the same subject:
Murray - ???
Sheckard - Goode
Stephens - Rossman?
Willis - Wilhelm
Stanage - Livingstone - Howard

[tedzan]

Thanks for the scans of the miscut T206's.


My best guess of which 460 series card was adjacent to the miscut Murray card is Meyers......


....OR....



What is your thinking regarding Murray's neighboring card ?



TED Z
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[t206hound]

Originally Posted by tedzan

I had more of these 460 series double same name cards, but I traded them away. They certainly do lend credence to the fact that these T206's were Double-Printed on their sheet.

TED Z

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Yes, just like every other series of T206, there were multiples of the same subject stacked vertically. I believe it was very likely that four or more of each subject stacked.

When I see/hear the the term "double-print", I assume that is in reference to twice of many of one subject appearing on the sheet than other subjects. If I've been using that term wrong, please let me know what term I should be using.