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Old 05-28-2015, 07:29 PM
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I love the underbidders in PWCC.




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1986 Fleer Basketball Johnny Moore #76 PSA 10 GEM MINT (PWCC)
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1986 Fleer Basketball Johnny Moore #76 PSA 10 GEM MINT (PWCC)
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Old 05-28-2015, 07:48 PM
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The Jackson of course. Without the holder the Moore is something you stick in your bike spokes.
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Old 05-28-2015, 08:00 PM
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The Jackson because it was $108 cheaper, and I love a good bargain.

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Old 05-29-2015, 09:13 AM
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I love the underbidders in PWCC.

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Item Title:
1986 Fleer Basketball Johnny Moore #76 PSA 10 GEM MINT (PWCC)
Bids on this item: 1

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Total bids: 1264
Items bid on: 113
Bid activity (%) with this seller: 46% Help
Bid retractions: 3
Bid retractions (6 months): 7

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Item description:
Item Title:
1986 Fleer Basketball Johnny Moore #76 PSA 10 GEM MINT (PWCC)
Bids on this item: 2

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Total bids: 75
Items bid on: 50
Bid activity (%) with this seller: 49% Help
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If it's a PWCC auction there's a high probability the Moore didn't actually sell for that insane amount.
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Old 05-29-2015, 09:32 AM
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The Moore price seems high, even though it is a pretty rare card. But this article from several years ago says it actually may be the toughest high-grade card in that set.

http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com...n-just-jordan/

PSA says there are 27 such cards and their SMR values it at $8,500.

I don't collect newer cards anymore, so if you gave me either card to keep in my collection where I couldn't sell it, I'd take a Jackson graded 1 over that card. But the Moore is pretty desired to basketball collectors.
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Old 05-29-2015, 09:35 AM
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Moore's story is a compelling one ( as is Jackson's )

http://articles.philly.com/1986-01-3...ular-headaches

Doesn't answer why 12K though... maybe a hardcore Spurs fan with deep pockets.
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Old 05-29-2015, 10:08 AM
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I love the underbidders in PWCC.




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Item Title:
1986 Fleer Basketball Johnny Moore #76 PSA 10 GEM MINT (PWCC)
Bids on this item: 1

30-Day Summary
Total bids: 1264
Items bid on: 113
Bid activity (%) with this seller: 46% Help
Bid retractions: 3
Bid retractions (6 months): 7






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Item Title:
1986 Fleer Basketball Johnny Moore #76 PSA 10 GEM MINT (PWCC)
Bids on this item: 2

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Total bids: 75
Items bid on: 50
Bid activity (%) with this seller: 49% Help
Bid retractions: 0
Bid retractions (6 months): 3
On topic, I take Joe Jax

Slightly off topic, this is my favorite recent underbider's history... And all the more reason why a last second snipe is still king. I bid at 1-2 sec left, got the item for about $150-$200 under my max, and this chump had no window to creep up the price at the end.




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Item description: 1953 Topps #220 Satchel Paige HOF Browns SGC AUTHENTIC Deceased 1982
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Old 05-29-2015, 10:31 AM
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Based on registry and nothing else IMO
I could think of numerous ways I would spend $12K before the name "Johnny Moore" would enter into my thoughts
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Based on registry and nothing else IMO
I could think of numerous ways I would spend $12K before the name "Johnny Moore" would enter into my thoughts
"Numerous?" Billions!!!

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Old 06-15-2015, 07:11 PM
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Default More Moore's I would rather have.

Who in the hell is Johnny Moore!?!? I'd rather have a t207 Earl Moore, i'd even take a mint Donnie Moore over this card.
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Old 06-15-2015, 07:18 PM
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Just further proof that TRIAPD.

According to the PSA population report, they've certified only 28 Johnny Moore cards as 10s. It is by far, the toughest card in the set to get in PSA 10. Only 23 cards in the set have been submitted in higher numbers than the Moore (there are 132 cards in the set). Only 15 other cards have 50 or fewer PSA 10s, with the fewest number of 10s for any of them being 41.

There are currently 9 complete PSA 10 sets on the PSA registry, with 3 (and possibly 4) other near-complete sets with all PSA 10s, including the Moore. That would leave no more than 15 or 16 Johnny Moore's for everyone else to fight over).

After saying all that though, I'd still rather have a Michael Jordan card from the set (there are 208 PSA 10s of it). Or, I could use the money to buy a 1951 Bowman Willie Mays, 1954 Bowman Ted Williams, T227 Ty Cobb, 1939 Playball Ted Williams, N172 Mike Kelly...............

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I'd rather have the 1914 Boston Braves pennant that just sold for about the same price!
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On topic, I take Joe Jax

Slightly off topic, this is my favorite recent underbider's history... And all the more reason why a last second snipe is still king. I bid at 1-2 sec left, got the item for about $150-$200 under my max, and this chump had no window to creep up the price at the end.




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Old 05-29-2015, 10:57 AM
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He must also dabble in ice cream collectibles.
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Old 05-29-2015, 11:47 AM
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He must also dabble in ice cream collectibles.
Obviously an inside reference, link?
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Obviously an inside reference, link?
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p=1355732
See post #52.

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These are both modern cards. Specifically they are the same card in the same auction. Lots #2 and #3. Both graded gem mint. One a 10 by PSA and the other a 9.5 by BGS.

1993 SP Foil #279 Derek Jeter:

PSA 10 - Final prices include buyers premium.: $32,816

BGS 9.5 - Final prices include buyers premium.: $4,981

The registry made someone pay $28k more for the PSA label than the BGS label. If there can be this type of discrepency in the exact same card in the same grade in the same auction, then the above doesn't surprise me at all.
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lol.

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Joe Jackson, although I would probably hold out for a Cracker Jack instead.

I will never understand the tremendous disparity in values among highly-graded cards. Differences are negligible, in my view, and, even worse, subjective and thus inconsistent.
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Joe Jackson, although I would probably hold out for a Cracker Jack instead.

I will never understand the tremendous disparity in values among highly-graded cards. Differences are negligible, in my view, and, even worse, subjective and thus inconsistent.
I couldn't agree more. Several of my collecting friends and I have often thought a solid Ex-NrMt (nowadays make it centered too) card might be the best value around. Any more than that and it seems to be degrees of "pointiness" to the corners. I do, however, completely understand and empathize with a little bit of that "pointless" affliction. Collect what you enjoy!!!
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