Trade: 1951 Bowman Mantle PSA4 for 1933 Ruth #53

[pokerplyr80]

I live in socal and am interested in purchasing the card so you can buy the 33 Ruth. I do not have one to trade. How much are you asking?

[BBB]

Hi All,

Just wanted to clarify that I am only looking for a trade at the moment. Apologies as I did not make this position 100% clear in the initial posting.

If I fail to find a trade, I will likely be back for a straight sale. I just have no clue what a fair price is as I know the Mantle RC is one of the few cards going up, up up in value while the Ruth is flat.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by BBB

Hi All,

Just wanted to clarify that I am only looking for a trade at the moment. Apologies as I did not make this position 100% clear in the initial posting.

If I fail to find a trade, I will likely be back for a straight sale. I just have no clue what a fair price is as I know the Mantle RC is one of the few cards going up, up up in value while the Ruth is flat.

Really? To say Babe Ruth cards are flat is just not true...and there is certainly enough data to price a 51 bowman mantle.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Really? To say Babe Ruth cards are flat is just not true...and there is certainly enough data to price a 51 bowman mantle.

yeah that post was sketchy..babe ruth #53 cards are not flat..and it really not hard to price a 51 mantle.....no way you can find a fair trade with that opinion..

[iowadoc77]

A quick search of eBay showed 4 sold non qualifier mantles. 2 for $4000ish and 2 for $5000. That's a start.

[BBB]

Its just not exactly a large sample. Not like seeing 8 sales in which case I feel more confident. 2 going for 4k and 2 going for 5k makes me wonder if it should be a hard 5k i should look for as the prices seem to be going up or more like 3.5k which those that note its slightly off center are offering.

In short, 3.5k - 5.0k is a heck of a range. I'm guessing 4.5k is not out of the question, but am not sure.

[BBB]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

yeah that post was sketchy..babe ruth #53 cards are not flat..and it really not hard to price a 51 mantle.....no way you can find a fair trade with that opinion..

Just looking for a straight trade chief. Nothing sketchy about that. #53 hasn't gone up near as much as Mantle recently.

Would dig hearing your opinion on pricing the Mantle, since I am only seeing a range of 3.5 - 5k rather than a stable price.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by BBB

Just looking for a straight trade chief. Nothing sketchy about that. #53 hasn't gone up near as much as Mantle recently.

Would dig hearing your opinion on pricing the Mantle, since I am only seeing a range of 3.5 - 5k rather than a stable price.

doesn't matter about how they got to a price , all that matters are what they are worth now.....a babe ruth 53 psa 4 I believe is on par with a centered mantle psa 4...you looking for a psa 4 ruth to trade even up?

as far as selling prices go..remember at auction the seller is not netting all the money in most cases...

[Peter_Spaeth]

I would say yours would sell at the lower end of the range due to print lines and centering and back staining, but it's certainly better than many 4s I have seen and somewhere north of 4k isn't out of the question in this market. It's going to be hard to find someone who wants to trade the precise card in the precise grade you are looking for, for this precise card. If you really want a Ruth, sell this one and use the cash.

[BBB]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

doesn't matter about how they got to a price , all that matters are what they are worth now.....a babe ruth 53 psa 4 I believe is on par with a centered mantle psa 4...you looking for a psa 4 ruth to trade even up?

as far as selling prices go..remember at auction the seller is not netting all the money in most cases...

I think they are on par too. So yessir - straight trade. I'm just guessing that the Mantle has more upside potential than the Ruth for the short term. One man's opinion.

[BBB]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Really? To say Babe Ruth cards are flat is just not true...and there is certainly enough data to price a 51 bowman mantle.

Flat in the short term gains. Of course Babe always goes up over the course of time. It is just that the Mantle has lept by over $1,000 in a couple months and the Babe has not.