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05-05-2015, 06:05 PM
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That does not look like the one I purchased
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05-05-2015, 06:08 PM
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So is possible these were made at 2 different time frames, 2 different companies?
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05-05-2015, 06:09 PM
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05-05-2015, 06:15 PM
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That make more sense that there is an older more expensive version and a newer (40's/50's) knockoff version, still worth a grand or 2, but looks like yours is of the nicer version.
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05-05-2015, 07:51 PM
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Boy are you guys tough.
Remember what I said before, no two are alike they were hand etched In the last 20 years only 6 examples have come to puBlic sale Hunt was the first to offer that I can find and theirs was the one from the Wrigley family or so they say because it has a W on the home plate section. It sold for $9500 Hunt then sold a different one for $8500. This one was then resold for $13,145 at Legendary in 8/11 It was also sold again last month for $22,000 Hunt also sold another for $6,500 which was different than all the others as the home plate was engraved The one that sold for $1011 with a $242 estimate from an authenticator was the smaller version made inn the 50's. I know this because the movement has the same turners as other thorns boxes from the 50's The $26,290 one with the player is also a 40's style, again based on the music box winder Bob great buy the other night was different from all the others. It is the larger size. Due to the movements winder it was made in the 40's as we're all the above except for the 1011 example. In my opinion, he stole it as we say. This example is in the same class as the $22,000 and the $26,000 boxes. In a major auction it is my opinion that he would equal those prices.
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05-05-2015, 08:24 PM
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This is an interesting debate/discussion. Still a bit of mystery on this…but two things we can all agree on…1)It is a great piece, and 2)Bob got it at a great price. (and 3..Jim has done great research on these Thorn pieces
 )However, the $22K and $26K boxes were listed as much earlier, not 40s. (Jim – you said yourself in a previous post..” Bob I would be patting myself on the back knowing that I had only paid what you did and not the $15,000 or upwards based on a bad description”). So, do we think the box would equal those prices if correctly described as the 40s? I don’t know and won’t pretend to know (and for Bob’s sake hope it would go in that class), but curious to what people’s thoughts are. Seems based on the posters in this thread we have some that think it would go high, and others that have serious doubt. In my opinion the difference in the dating can very significantly alter the price. I can see the same seller who previously paid $22K/26K having serious concern learning this was 40’s, and not much earlier as described. Even Bob said “I am very happy with my purchase and have no regrets (the story would not have been the same had I paid $15k+ for it)”..so it would seem even the value in Bob's eyes is somewhat diminished learning of the 40s date. Again just curious on everyones thoughts now, as we all seem to be changing our “tune” (pun intended  ) on this piece.Not trying to drag Bob through the mud..actually I think we are all celebrating this piece, and his pickup, and are engaged in the discovery with Bob. I agree super rare, high demand and will command a strong price, but $22 -26K?..wow!
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#7
05-05-2015, 08:36 PM
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Joe. What I had meant by my comment was that if I had paid $15k for one in the last auction (or north of that) and someone bought this one for $2300, I would feel sick about spending $13k more for something that had just sold 10 days ago. Had I not won this one I would still be on the lookout for one and be willing to go after it and pay up to $15k for it. I think that the market for this is around $15 - $25k.
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#8
05-05-2015, 08:46 PM
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As I did more research on the boxes I changer my mind.
Except in very rare cases, in the baseball memorabilia world the collector paying $26,000 for a music box does not do so on impulse. They have a very good idea on what they are buying. The information on the boxes is out there If you take an hour you could find the real story and then make a decession on your purchase What disturbes us is the $26,000 buyer is not know to us so we can't ask him/her Last edited by murphusa; 05-05-2015 at 08:49 PM.
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