T210-7 & 5 Printing Oddity & Question

[autograf]

Could be the top card on a sheet......but all are very cool. Little to no T210 experience so no help here.....neat stuff.

[Brian Weisner]

Hey Mike,
I do have another Winston Salem player that is hand cut and without gloss... I will post it when I get home. As you know, the gloss on T210's is all over the place.. I have quite a few factory cut cards with no gloss too...

Hope you are well Brian

[Michael Peich]

Hi, Rob,

I agree with Tom. I think the Cantwell was probably trimmed at the top of the sheet. These are the first two gloss-less cards I've encountered, and they appear to be hand-cut, hence my interest.

Any thoughts from anyone else?

Cheers,
Mike

[Brian Weisner]

Here you go...




Be well Brian

[nolemmings]

Cantwell looks hand-cut on all four sides. That always makes me wonder if the "card" was cut from a poster or advertising sheet of some kind. That also would/could explain the lack of gloss. Is the stock correct for the issue?

[caramelcard]

If it was the top of the sheet, wouldn't it just be red up to the top? That looks like the bottom of another card with no name below it.

[Michael Peich]

Todd-The paper stock seems to be the same so I don't think it's cut from advertising. And the Cantwell is definitely hand trimmed on all four sides.

Rob-That's a good point and I frankly don't know. However, I do suspect that the gloss finish may have been applied as the last run through the press. If a sheet were deemed faulty for some reason, the gloss would possibly not be applied, and the sheet would have been discarded. Discarded sheets must have been ripe for hand cutting.

Brian-Can you show a few of your factory cut gloss-less cards?

I guess we can chalk this up to another one of the mysteries of card production circa 1910!

Cheers,
Mike

[Jaybird]

I would think the sheet was pulled from the line prior to gloss like you say. The red color would be printed on the card, and the red at the top of the card sheet would stop when the card stops. That border on top is not thick enough to account for two cards top to bottom.

Can we see the backs? Often times when the sheet was pulled for misalignment, etc. it really shows up on the backs. Or at least how the backs compare to the fronts. Other issues end up hand cut all time time. Sometimes they are from advertising posters but most times they are because of a printing error or problem at the factory. If the stock feels the same other than the gloss, you'd have to think factory original until some other evidence shows up.

I agree that the gloss would be the last layer. Just like painting a car. It was pulled prior to that stage.