E98 Authenticity question. help please

[iowadoc77]

Thanks to all of you for your thoughts. I am not feeling so dumb about this as there are differing opinions here. Not sure what to do yet. Just haven't seen a lot of these. Maybe Leon will just sell me his...

[chaddurbin]

you can talk about squares and rectangles all day but that's a perfectly normal e98 cut. trimming is an 80's invention for nrmt looking cards or the 20s-30s to fit into album pages. who would trim that beat up matty? card might not receive a # grade anyways if the top crease is heavy enough to separate the paper stock.

[Jobu]

Talking about squares and rectangles all day sounds boring.

[Jobu]

Not trying to be difficult here (as I said, I am working on learning about detecting trimming and don't know much about E98) but I don't see how you can have one side be that off. As I understand it, these cards were cut by something that punched rectangular holes out of the paper. If the paper was askew you get a diamond cut or miscut, but still a rectangle. How would a factory cut result in one side that isn't parallel like this (two sides if you count the top)?

[sb1]

They were cut with a single blade, the sheet first cut into strips and they separated top to bottom. skewed cuts occurred when the blades get dull and pull rather than cut, making the sheet to be slightly turned and cut crooked.

For the record I do not think the card is trimmed. This card was probably at the bottom of the strip and got pulled out of whack on the cut.

[Jobu]

Thank you for the explanation, I appreciate it. Apparently I was waaaay off in thinking about how sheets were cut!

Sorry to hijack the thread with my attempts to learn more about the process and what to look for, but if anyone has slabbed E cards with numeric grades that have a cut like this where one side is really different I would like to see a few to build a better frame of reference in my head.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by sb1

They were cut with a single blade, the sheet first cut into strips and they separated top to bottom. skewed cuts occurred when the blades get dull and pull rather than cut, making the sheet to be slightly turned and cut crooked.

For the record I do not think the card is trimmed. This card was probably at the bottom of the strip and got pulled out of whack on the cut.

[iowadoc77]

Hey Jobu
You didn't hijack at all. This is a way for me and I hope others to learn about this. Thanks for the reply