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[Deertick]

Originally Posted by mschwade

I don't know Tebow's well, but most of the other Heismans I looked at on that football looked good.

I don't like something on most of them.

[mschwade]

Originally Posted by Deertick

I don't like something on most of them.

The only suspect ones that I am familiar with are Beban and John David Crow. The others on the entire Tebow panel are good (like I said, I'm not familiar enough with Tim's). Quick peak, Lattner is good and Dawkins is good.

Which ones can you specifically call out?

[RichardSimon]

You got to love the description of that Drysdale.
NO COA.
The turds are too ashamed to have their names associated with that one.

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by mschwade

The only suspect ones that I am familiar with are Beban and John David Crow. The others on the entire Tebow panel are good (like I said, I'm not familiar enough with Tim's). Quick peak, Lattner is good and Dawkins is good.

Which ones can you specifically call out?

In case anyone cares, here is the ball. http://www.auctionzip.com/aflive.htm...4998820&seq=84

I don't like the Crow either. Or the Plunkett, Toretta, Rodgers, Rogers, Lattner, Cassady, Wuerffel, Rozier. Tebow doesn't form the I and rarely if ever dots it. What's up with Plunkett and Lattners' T's?

None are terrible, complete messes. I just see discrepancies in almost every one, which adds up to too much suspicion for me.

After looking at the autographs, I found this ball below. They all match what I would expect from authentic examples. Note all the differences with the ball in question. However, it looks like Tebow used the same pen?? Maybe it all is a coincidence.

[mschwade]

I'd love to hear others chime in... I thought John David Crow looked suspect on AK's football, but what characteristics I thought looked suspect, is also present on the second ball posted.

I think the football is good and these were somewhat "rushed" signatures at a Heisman event.

What's everyone else's thoughts?

[Deertick]

That's what I leaning toward. Maybe the AK was late in the day? Compare the Sims. Do you see what I mean? The "good" ball all look perfect, the AK pretty much all different.

I think a similar ball sold for ~ $3K a few years ago.

[mschwade]

Originally Posted by Deertick

That's what I leaning toward. Maybe the AK was late in the day? Compare the Sims. Do you see what I mean? The "good" ball all look perfect, the AK pretty much all different.

I think a similar ball sold for ~ $3K a few years ago.

Wow, $3K? Really? These are all relatively easier signatures to acquire (TTM/Public Signings). Cassady is no longer signing, Kazmaier is deceased, but other than that, all of those on the ball can pretty much be had.

Thanks Deertick, it was fun getting the wheels turning.

[Maddog]

I don't like the Cassady, Sims, especially the Plunkett. I have several of these IP and none look like these. The Plunkett is especially bad.
Hard to say all of these are no good but most of the more popular names sure as heck don't seem good.