What is a scrap? Please explain.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by mrvster

leon's matty proof could go 100 k + easy imho....

If we expand this thread to include proofs, the most valuable of all is the Collins proof IMO.

[Buythatcard]

Several months ago, I sold this card. Now that I see all these scraps, I wonder whether this was considered a scrap.

[ZenPop]

...so... question. (and apologies if this has been answered before)

Is there a general consensus about how this "scrap" survived?
Were they placed in packs? Saved by printers? or both?

I'm guessing both... but still wonder.

[mrvster]

that's a great question....

theoretically, no scraps ever made it to a factory pack( but maybe a fluke that a few got packed in a cig pack, but the probabilities are very slim)

most, were taken home by the original printers, designers, or factory workers......some may have literally been picked out of the trash bins at the factory in manhattan....

these cards eventually made it into collections...

collectors had no idea what they were 100 years ago, and still don't today..



they are like finding little gems in a mine.....

they are incredible and give little clues into how the set was produced...

even after over 100 years ago, new discovers occur and really are incredible..

[ZenPop]

Originally Posted by mrvster

that's a great question....

theoretically, no scraps ever made it to a factory pack( but maybe a fluke that a few got packed in a cig pack, but the probabilities are very slim)

most, were taken home by the original printers, designers, or factory workers......some may have literally been picked out of the trash bins at the factory in manhattan....

these cards eventually made it into collections...

collectors had no idea what they were 100 years ago, and still don't today..



they are like finding little gems in a mine.....

they are incredible and give little clues into how the set was produced...

even after over 100 years ago, new discovers occur and really are incredible..

Thanks so much for the response... I completely agree about amazing they are. They are quickly becoming my FAVORITE thing about card collecting. They're the "Land of Misfit Toys" of cards... and every one is unique.

I guess the reason I assumed that a lot got in the pack is because I've seen some of the shabby quality control in card manufactures today and figure they were probably similar. But your response seems more apt.

One final question: I see the words "Overprint" on listings that I just see as registration problems. Clearly the colors didn't line up... so is "Overprint" just a handy dandy term to stick all misprints under?

[mrvster]

I totally agree with you! I always used the same phrase of the "misfits"

when you hear "over print" , it means the image was actually transferred using a print process and "intentional".....as where a wet sheet transfer would be "unintentionally" transferred as the image....

simply put, overprint means "struck" or "printed"

[Sean]

Hey Johnny, there is something else on that Chance besides the Cycle overprint. Any idea what it is?

[Exhibitman]

Wet sheet transfer, Howard, and a nice one! Here's a few:

E210 Rice:



1928 Exhibit:



Spahn RC