Please help Just got a t206 need opinions on it being tampered with

[egbeachley]

The card is fine. The slab did its job protecting it. It's wasteful to use cardboard and bubble mailers for every small shipment.

[Bpm0014]

So I guess "buy the card, not the holder" actually applies here? haha

[GoldenAge50s]

Originally Posted by egbeachley

The card is fine. The slab did its job protecting it. It's wasteful to use cardboard and bubble mailers for every small shipment.

Eric--

I can't believe you are excusing the Seller's horrible shipping just because the card wasn't damaged! The slab IS part of the card & it was smashed for lack of a couple of pieces of cardboard, a proper envelope & hence an unhappy customer. --and I don't consider $30 a small shipment, altho that's not the point anyhow.

An item should be properly packaged no matter WHAT it is or WHAT it costs!

[TanksAndSpartans]

The seller was wrong to ship it like this, but when buying from an eBay seller who is not a dealer or consigner, I kind of expect these things (slow shipping, poor packaging, etc.) and weigh it against the price of the card. Definitely deserves neutral/negative feedback depending on response, but I'd just sent it in to be reholdered and be thankful the card is fine.

[freakhappy]

Originally Posted by GoldenAge50s

Eric--



I can't believe you are excusing the Seller's horrible shipping just because the card wasn't damaged! The slab IS part of the card & it was smashed for lack of a couple of pieces of cardboard, a proper envelope & hence an unhappy customer. --and I don't consider $30 a small shipment, altho that's not the point anyhow.



An item should be properly packaged no matter WHAT it is or WHAT it costs!

+1

Good points, Fred. There is no doubt that the slab is important. You pay a price for a grade and to get it entombed and we all know that the condition of the slab does in fact matter...especially if you display your cards.

[arc2q]

I don't think anyone is excusing the mistake in shipping or saying it does not matter. I think the bottom line is many in this community are too quick to throw around accusations of tampering and threaten negative action when a little patience would be more prudent.

Its fine to discuss these things here and get feedback. But it is also important to remember this is the most widely-used forum for vintage cards and anything negative said here about a seller/dealer has potential consequences for that person's business and reputation. The OP raised sinister accusations of tampering when it was clear this was just a case of minor damage in shipping.

The shipper made a mistake. It was a minor mistake at best that is easily corrected. Give that person a chance to make it right before turning it into a referendum. SGC will reholder that card for $5 with a 2 day turnaround. It's really not that big of a deal.

[Buythatcard]

Originally Posted by arc2q

I don't think anyone is excusing the mistake in shipping or saying it does not matter. I think the bottom line is many in this community are too quick to throw around accusations of tampering and threaten negative action when a little patience would be more prudent.

Its fine to discuss these things here and get feedback. But it is also important to remember this is the most widely-used forum for vintage cards and anything negative said here about a seller/dealer has potential consequences for that person's business and reputation. The OP raised sinister accusations of tampering when it was clear this was just a case of minor damage in shipping.

The shipper made a mistake. It was a minor mistake at best that is easily corrected. Give that person a chance to make it right before turning it into a referendum. SGC will reholder that card for $5 with a 2 day turnaround. It's really not that big of a deal.

Well said, Andrew.

[xplainer]

Originally Posted by egbeachley

The card is fine. The slab did its job protecting it. It's wasteful to use cardboard and bubble mailers for every small shipment.

Sorry, but I totally disagree.
Every card I sell ships between cardboard and in a bubble envelope.
I'm not a Big Baller, but cards are cards. And what sets me apart is the way I ship and the speed I ship. That way, maybe folks will remember me and can come back.

I take pride in my shipping. Ask anyone who has ever purchased from me.

ALL cards "deserve" cardboard and bubble envelope. If not, who decides which one do, and which one's don't? The seller? How can that be right?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by xplainer

Sorry, but I totally disagree.
Every card I sell ships between cardboard and in a bubble envelope.
I'm not a Big Baller, but cards are cards. And what sets me apart is the way I ship and the speed I ship. That way, maybe folks will remember me and can come back.

I take pride in my shipping. Ask anyone who has ever purchased from me.

ALL cards "deserve" cardboard and bubble envelope. If not, who decides which one do, and which one's don't? The seller? How can that be right?

Packaging is important. I use bubble wrap inside a bubble mailer usually. Sometimes I use cardboard too, when I need to. Accidents do happen though. Shipping can be difficult on holders...

[Joshchisox08]

I'd like to apologize if I've offended anyone. I was upset about receiving a card for the second time with a cracked case.

I was reading other forums and thought that it had signs of being opened based off of what I read on those forums. If you see my current collection 88 I don't have as many as most on here and I'm still what I'd consider a newbie at t206 but it is my main focus.

The seller responded to me yesterday afternoon and I got a lame response:

"Hi When I get home from work I will look at the listing.thanks"

I'm unsure what looking at the listing would have to do with anything but if he doesn't respond today as he was supposed to yesterday I'm open to suggestions on how to handle the matter ?? All I asked was a refund of shipping and money for a new slab.

[mrvster]

it's all good! the highs and lows of collecting......

I promise....there will be much more highs than lows

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Joshchisox08

I'd like to apologize if I've offended anyone. I was upset about receiving a card for the second time with a cracked case.

I was reading other forums and thought that it had signs of being opened based off of what I read on those forums. If you see my current collection 88 I don't have as many as most on here and I'm still what I'd consider a newbie at t206 but it is my main focus.

The seller responded to me yesterday afternoon and I got a lame response:

"Hi When I get home from work I will look at the listing.thanks"

I'm unsure what looking at the listing would have to do with anything but if he doesn't respond today as he was supposed to yesterday I'm open to suggestions on how to handle the matter ?? All I asked was a refund of shipping and money for a new slab.

I hope he works with you a little bit. It's certainly not your fault.

[Joshchisox08]

He's actually not cooperating at all. It's been getting frustrating.

[botport]

Josh,

First off sorry about your holder, but I think you need to consider a dealers perspective here. You received the item for $30 delivered. The seller paid for the card, possibly to grade it, paid something to ship it (albeit poorly), list it and pay the closing auction fees. Although your request for the dealer to pay for a new holder and a refund in shipping is not unreasonable, you are more then likely asking the dealer to take a loss on Dubuc. If you want to keep the card and can not work something out with the seller, I would advise paying to get the card in a holder that you can live with. If that option is disagreeable to you, ask if you can return the item for a refund.

Whatever you decide you did obtain a very presentable CARD at a nice price, so try to enjoy it.

Happy Easter, Frank