Advertsing panels / salesman samples

[obiwin]

The exact wording that Beckett uses is "Advertising Panel"

@Footballdude: I was referring to Beckett's online price guide, though I just checked my 2010-11 hardcopy annual Beckett, and the 1957 football panels were listed in there.

Originally Posted by Griffins

Are they listing Salesman Samples or just 3 card panels? Just because it's a 3 card panel doesn't mean it's a salesman sample. Topps didn't issue salesman samples past '67 (other than Heritage inserts that were issued starting in '08) and even during those years panels lacking ad copy just makes it a 3 card panel.

[Griffins]

Originally Posted by obiwin

The exact wording that Beckett uses is "Advertising Panel"

@Footballdude: I was referring to Beckett's online price guide, though I just checked my 2010-11 hardcopy annual Beckett, and the 1957 football panels were listed in there.

Ok, that makes sense. The '57's are clearly ad panels, the '73 one described isn't and is just a blank backed panel, so it shouldn't be listed in Beckett as an ad panel.

Adam, you're right, the price for these is all over the place. I've seen them go for $10k (without a key player) and as low as $400, at least on the baseball ones. I was told by an auction house that there are at least 3 deep pocketed collectors putting together a run of these, so the market isn't just limited to player collectors.

[finalscore]

Below are a few of the Football Ad Panels I own. You will find Beckett's listing is incomplete as there are still a number of panels that are unknown or not cataloged.

[Footballdude]

Are there any guesses as to what kind of production numbers there were for these ad panels? They do seem to be rather scarce. I know Topps probably either didn't keep records or they just don't disclose their production numbers, but has anyone ever tried to guess what the population is?

[Footballdude]

Mike, those are fabulous! I love them!

I do have a request. Would it be possible to scan the front and back of the 1963 panel, with the Jim Brown? And, hopefully, with your permission, would it be possible for me to use on my 1963 color variations website? (link below).

[Griffins]

Mike, incredible collection! What years do football run? Topps Baseball is '52-'67, Bowman '54-'55. Did Bowman issue football samples, and did Topps start with the '55 AA's? Did Philly gum issue any?

[finalscore]

Richard, PM me your email address and I will forward you the scans.
Anthøny, the earliest sample I have seen is 1956 Topps. I have not seen a '55 AA but it would make sense a sample might exist. I have Topps FB samples through 1964. What is interesting is for the '62 Football, while I do not own a sample, I do own a pamphlet that was issued advertising the cards to stores and jobbers. I'll see if I can post the image. I have not seen Bowman samples, but have seen a 12 card 1964 Philly sample.

[finalscore]

Here are the images of the four-page 1962 Topps FB pamphlet.


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