Has everyone gone mad?

[wonkaticket]

Mike, I see your side too. I agree some things I think people just want to be valuable. That is kind of human nature if you have something odd of course you want "your" item to be valuable. While hyping may lead to short term bumps I think it very rarely leads to real staying value.

In terms of this error. I was turned onto this by a very advanced collector long ago and it was kept under the radar. I have looked and looked and only managed to pull the 2 cards to date and this has been over many years. I know this is the same for the other 5-6 folks I know who are looking for these. To date I think I have the only Bradley there are a few copies of Bergen and Doolan floating around. It really is a tough and neat little error. Is it worth thousands upon thousands once again only worth what someone is willing to pay.

To me it's a great a thing little errors like this. It still shows that there insights into the production of this set as well new things to be found, that perhaps aren't as random as they appear. That's part of the magic of this set or the craziness of this set all depends on what side of the fence you sit on.

Cheers,

John

[brass_rat]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

To date I think I have the only Bradley there are a few copies of Bergen and Doolan floating around.

Please forgive my ignorance as I really don't have much knowledge of printing plates and the process, but would this variation indicate that these three players were located at the same place and printed on different sheets? I would figure that the fronts were printed and then flipped to print the back. If a particular back plate was compromised at a single place, then it would make sense why these three players are found with the printing variation.

Thanks,
Steve

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by brass_rat

Please forgive my ignorance as I really don't have much knowledge of printing plates and the process, but would this variation indicate that these three players were located at the same place and printed on different sheets? I would figure that the fronts were printed and then flipped to print the back. If a particular back plate was compromised at a single place, then it would make sense why these three players are found with the printing variation.

Thanks,
Steve

I would say so. Now does anyone have any miscut Polar Bears with two different names including any of the guys found with the Ser__s back?

[MVSNYC]

Did someone say miscut Polar Bear?

[wolf441]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

Did someone say miscut Polar Bear?

C'mon, miscuts are so last week! Your not a cool kid if you don't have Polar Bear Base Ball Ser s card!

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by wolf441

C'mon, miscuts are so last week! Your not a cool kid if you don't have Polar Bear Base Ball Ser s card!

Not so sure Steve, what I have learned about this hobby that is iron clad is everything is worth 24k, not 10% more or less. Exactly 24k

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

Did someone say miscut Polar Bear?

Show off!

[MVSNYC]

I learned it from watching you, John!

When the F are we doing another NYC dinner?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

I learned it from watching you, John!

When the F are we doing another NYC dinner?

Doesn't Crandall have to organize these?

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by brass_rat

Please forgive my ignorance as I really don't have much knowledge of printing plates and the process, but would this variation indicate that these three players were located at the same place and printed on different sheets? I would figure that the fronts were printed and then flipped to print the back. If a particular back plate was compromised at a single place, then it would make sense why these three players are found with the printing variation.

Thanks,
Steve

Good point Steve.
I think it would be safe to say that this particular back plate was used on at least three different sets of fronts. Besides the missing ie and the imperfection in the B in Bear already mentioned there also is the same extra white spot by the T in all the examples shown so far.

These are Robs that he has in the BST

[MVSNYC]

Wolf, you are so right!

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by Pat R

Good point Steve.
I think it would be safe to say that this particular back plate was used on at least three different sets of fronts. Besides the missing ie and the imperfection in the B in Bear already mentioned there also is the same extra white spot by the T in all the examples shown so far.

These are Robs that he has in the BST

One wonders how many thousands of dollars you could get now for a low grade common that has the white spot but is not missing the ie. We can call it "the ultra-rare spotted T/ie" variation.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

One wonders how many thousands of dollars you could get now for a low grade common that has the white spot but is not missing the ie. We can call it "the ultra-rare spotted T/ie" variation.

Since the missing letters could be from plate damage and the small white spot would be a defective transfer, it should exist. If it does it will probably be somewhat common, and should be found on more than three cards. Probably 5-7 different, and it could come with one of the three fronts that have the missing IE. (Potentially more than 5-7 if the fronts were redone between the 350 and 460 series)

Steve B

[sreader3]

I wanna give a hat tip to Morrie who spotted the PB "SER S" print error 11 years ago and was hazed on Net54 for raising the issue. I hope you squirreled away a few dozen!

[Mountaineer1999]

Originally Posted by sreader3

I wanna give a hat tip to Morrie who spotted the PB "SER S" print error 11 years ago and was hazed on Net54 for raising the issue. I hope you squirreled away a few dozen!

+1

[unamuzd1]

Originally Posted by sreader3

I wanna give a hat tip to Morrie who spotted the PB "SER S" print error 11 years ago and was hazed on Net54 for raising the issue. I hope you squirreled away a few dozen!

Thanks! Sadly, I didn't. Still only the one of each that I mentioned at the time. (Well, no Bergen. Just the other two.) I'll see about getting decent scans of them in a bit.

Edited to add that I'm sure I wasn't remotely the first person to notice it, with so many smart people being so passionate about these for so many years!