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Old 03-25-2015, 05:48 PM
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Ok I guess here is my question. I have seen dozens of these online and they all have the same looking "John Hancock" in upper right corner. So your going to tell me that every one of them knew how to fill out a cargo slip the same way Hancock did? I dont think so. Most of this sailors probably couldn't read or write let alone fill out cargo manifests in such elegant writing. From what I have read Hancock was a smuggler of sorts. Hancock wrote these for them. Compare this document to any Hancock letter and letter formations the same. I can Post pictures of these as well.
Believe what you want. The document was written--in its entirety--by the ship's Captain. Who could read, write, and do lots of other things, like knowing enough mathematics to navigate on the high seas. He could certainly fill out a simple form.

Hancock was simply a person shipping goods. He had absolutely no authority to fill out and sign a Bill of Lading. Only the shipper could do that. It's still the same today.

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Old 03-25-2015, 05:54 PM
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how about this? So your telling me all these sailors wrote exactly like this? I dont think so. Hancock wrote these bills.
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You are right; I am wrong. Hancock filled out the document, and signed it in the Captain's name.
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You are right; I am wrong. Hancock filled out the document, and signed it in the Captain's name.
Im not tring to be right..I Just want to know for sure as I have wanted to buy one of these but unsure if I should.
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You may not be trying, but I think you are right. I think all those documents were written by Hancock. I was wrong.
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I have always thought they were cool as a "pre" declaration signature. I just never pulled the trigger on one because there is not much info on them.
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So "John Scott" filled this one out as well?
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Did you read what I posted above?
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So "John Scott" filled this one out as well?
Funny how all the examples you posted, the"John Hancock" autos are totally different from each other. Which would mean they were probably signed by the ships master whether it was John, Alex, etc.
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Default Dick Fowler vintage signed 1949 Bowman card

I just added this vintage signed card of no-hit pitcher Dick Fowler to my collection.

Dick Fowler was the only Canadian to pitch a no-hitter, which he threw in September of 1945 upon returning from WWII.
Amazingly his no-hitter was his 1st pitching appearance in 3 years and was the 1st shutout in his career that spanned 10 seasons in the ML. Fowler was a huge guy for his era, 6'4" and 225 lbs. and I believe that at one point he was also a Canadian Mounty. He was inducted into the Canadian Sports HOF in 1985.
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I picked up a signed 1953 Topps Smoky Burgess today, though it won't be here before the month ends. He was short-printed in the set.


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