Hartland 1880's Bronze Statue?

[Hankphenom]

Any idea of the relative scarcities, or even if all of these went into production? I assume they were making them to order, and as I said, I've never seen any Walter Johnsons other than mine. I would guess there are others out there, but not many given the price and short lifespan of the Southland Company.

[murphusa]

from Photos on ebay today

Christy, Mickey and Ty

[MGHPro]

I have a Johnson too . They are certainly rare tho
Matt

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

Any idea of the relative scarcities, or even if all of these went into production? I assume they were making them to order, and as I said, I've never seen any Walter Johnsons other than mine. I would guess there are others out there, but not many given the price and short lifespan of the Southland Company.

[perezfan]

NM

[whiteymet]

Hi Mark:

The Johnson that Hank consigned to the REA auction brought almost $3K. See:

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/..._fall/950.html

I have also brokered some private sales for that amount and more on some of these Southlands and Hartland Bronze which in my experience are much rarer than the Southlands.

I hope your patience pays off, but there just aren't many of these out there!

[perezfan]

NM

[perezfan]

NM

[murphusa]

So now a group here will be bidding against each other and driving the price up. Too bad we weren't paying attention a year ago

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

Any idea of the relative scarcities, or even if all of these went into production? I assume they were making them to order, and as I said, I've never seen any Walter Johnsons other than mine. I would guess there are others out there, but not many given the price and short lifespan of the Southland Company.

Hank:

I have some old records from the Southland Company on how many were were ordered/made of each. Without digging them out I can say for certain Mantle was far and away the most ordered. That total was about 15 to 20. Most others were in the single digits, so these are quite scarce!

As you mentioned these were made to order and buyers could choose what number they wanted. So if the announced issued size was say for instance 250 that does not mean 250 were produced. And just because you may have or seen one numbered again for instance 45/250 does not mean 45 were produced.

Fred

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by whiteymet

Hank:

I have some old records from the Southland Company on how many were were ordered/made of each. Without digging them out I can say for certain Mantle was far and away the most ordered. That total was about 15 to 20. Most others were in the single digits, so these are quite scarce!

As you mentioned these were made to order and buyers could choose what number they wanted. So if the announced issued size was say for instance 250 that does not mean 250 were produced. And just because you may have or seen one numbered again for instance 45/250 does not mean 45 were produced.

Fred

According to a brief article in SCD from then, Southland was going to also produce a plastic version of the bronzes, but since I've never seen any I guess they went under before that happened.

[murphusa]

Some were made in plastic but others, mostly the older player with the exception of the Joe Jackson never made it

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

According to a brief article in SCD from then, Southland was going to also produce a plastic version of the bronzes, but since I've never seen any I guess they went under before that happened.

Hank:

As Jim mentioned Southland did make plastic statues of Griffey, Gwynn, Jackson, Maddux, and Ryan. They also made in limited quantities the above plastics in bronze, silver, gold and pewter tints.

They did not make plastic or resin of the other bronze namely:

Cobb, Johnson, Mathewson, Ruth, Wagner, Mantle, Ruth/Gehrig

I do however have a few painted and unpainted resin statues including a Brooks Robinson that was never produced. As well as wax versions, molds and original artwork and original drawings from the artist (Dr. Nick Calcagno) and his original clay sculpture of Wagner that is about 18" tall. See some below.

Fred

[Hankphenom]

Amazing stuff, Fred! Did you get those directly from the artist? So cool that this material was saved. And such a shame that this wonderful program sank so quickly.

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

Amazing stuff, Fred! Did you get those directly from the artist? So cool that this material was saved. And such a shame that this wonderful program sank so quickly.

Hank:

None of the items shown came directly from the artist. The company basically "owned" all the material since the artist worked for them.

I do however have some other sketches of Nolan Ryan and a few others that I did get from Dr. Nick Calcagno.

Fred

[parker1b2]

The Southland Plastic "Bronze" Ryan and plastic Maddux autograph versions

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