Magie cards

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Rollingstone206

I'd have to imagine the person working on those MAGIE cards has doctored hundreds of cards, possibly thousands of cards....

If this is the case he's not that good...imo.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

If this is the case he's not that good...imo.

Good enough to have made a very good living and then some off card doctoring, would be my assumption.

[ullmandds]

Now we are making assumptions of the doctor's income??? Are we aware of any other cards this doctor doctored?????

All I know is the Magie is not very good...granted it got past PSA but that doesn't mean a whole lot.

The M and the A are canted in weird ways...unlike any t206 I've ever seen.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Now we are making assumptions of the doctor's income??? Are we aware of any other cards this doctor doctored?????

All I know is the Magie is not very good...granted it got past PSA but that doesn't mean a whole lot.

The M and the A are canted in weird ways...unlike any t206 I've ever seen.

All you have to do to make a tremendous living doing this is to get a reasonable percentage of attempts past PSA, or SGC. Even leaving Nash aside, I think it's a pretty fair assumption that this is the work of one of the usual suspects. But of course I am just making assumptions, I don't know.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

All you have to do to make a tremendous living doing this is to get a reasonable percentage of attempts past PSA, or SGC.

True I suppose...but I can't think of any other high profile cards such as this magie...that are holdered...that appear not right...but obviously I don't see every card!!!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

True I suppose...but I can't think of any other high profile cards such as this magie...that are holdered...that appear not right...but obviously I don't see every card!!!

Seriously??

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Seriously??

I guess my post was vague...there are plenty of holdered cards that do not look right! I was referring to radical doctoring like changing type like this magie...not trim jobs, etc.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

All you have to do to make a tremendous living doing this is to get a reasonable percentage of attempts past PSA, or SGC.

What if there was a 'dirty' grader on the inside that was authenticating these? You have 'dirty' people in other professions, why not graders?

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Now we are making assumptions of the doctor's income??? Are we aware of any other cards this doctor doctored?????

All I know is the Magie is not very good...granted it got past PSA but that doesn't mean a whole lot.

The M and the A are canted in weird ways...unlike any t206 I've ever seen.

My concern is more with how the surface of the card looked under magnification (200x as David suggested) - were there obvious differences in the lettering ink, surface gloss, etc., as compared to a 'normal' T206? If not, then we have an even more serious issue - getting the slant of the letters better is just a small step away.

I couldn't tell enough from the scans or from the detail pics in HOS, but I suspect that 200x magnification would have shown obvious problems. If you have ever looked at the surface of a T206 under such magnification, you'll probably agree that it would be really difficult to hide alteration. I would think impossible, but I would love to get a look at one of these Magee's to confirm.