Saco River T206s....

[ricktmd]

I agree with Kevin PSA grades smarter and tougher . Their cards routinely sell for more to set registry collectors and others. It is a safer and better investment to collect PSA. I bought 4 cards in the Saco River auction 2 out of the 4 did not cross evenly. An SGC 60 Gandil with the AB back was given a PSA 4 . Their S74 silk grading is all over the board and inconsistent. Factory folds get a 40's but horribly frayed silks get 5's. They routinely miss problems with Fatima T200's which never cross to PSA.

The fiasco with the forged Standard Biscuit cards is outrageous . They graded a large number of forged W575-1 strip cards that were crudely cut . The edges were jagged on two sides and the back crudely stamped and smudged. I bought one and it was obvious without a loop in person. Missing this forgery was ridiculous and is proof that the very basic fundamental task of authenticity was missed let alone grades of SGC 84's . I don't know if anyone stopped the Ruth card that was over 50,000.00 in Hunts auction. SGC is easier to deal with, less money and more card friendly but unfortunately they often misjudge altered cards and over grade

[The Nasty Nati]

Let's not overlook the fact that PSA screwed up on their first ever graded card...the TRIMMED PSA "8" Honus Wagner.

Way to start your company off with a forgery bang.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by The Nasty Nati

Let's not overlook the fact that PSA screwed up on their first ever graded card...the TRIMMED PSA "8" Honus Wagner.

Way to start your company off with a forgery bang.

You mean their company was built on a lie?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by ricktmd

I agree with Kevin PSA grades smarter and tougher . Their cards routinely sell for more to set registry collectors and others. It is a safer and better investment to collect PSA. I bought 4 cards in the Saco River auction 2 out of the 4 did not cross evenly. An SGC 60 Gandil with the AB back was given a PSA 4 . Their S74 silk grading is all over the board and inconsistent. Factory folds get a 40's but horribly frayed silks get 5's. They routinely miss problems with Fatima T200's which never cross to PSA.

The fiasco with the forged Standard Biscuit cards is outrageous . They graded a large number of forged W575-1 strip cards that were crudely cut . The edges were jagged on two sides and the back crudely stamped and smudged. I bought one and it was obvious without a loop in person. Missing this forgery was ridiculous and is proof that the very basic fundamental task of authenticity was missed let alone grades of SGC 84's . I don't know if anyone stopped the Ruth card that was over 50,000.00 in Hunts auction. SGC is easier to deal with, less money and more card friendly but unfortunately they often misjudge altered cards and over grade

Hey Rick
You probably need your name out here to post that kind of opinion. Same with everyone in this thread. If you give an opinion you need your name in your post/sig line/thread, per forum rules.

As for mistakes. We/they all make them. It's how they are handled that set folks apart. Think about that for a while....

[toledo_mudhen]

Just to stir a bit more - I prefer the look (and consistency) of SGC. Personal experience for me is that roughly 25% of PSA 7s will cross to an SGC 84 and have only had 1 ever cross from a 7 to an 86. On the plus side - well purchased PSAs are pretty easy to flip when they dont cross. I like moonshine.