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02-20-2015, 11:07 AM
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02-20-2015, 11:20 AM
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Edited to clarify: McNally wasn't a new employee. Apparently, he's been with the Patriots organization for many years. He should have know better to handle balls during the game. It's not like he was the new guy that didn't know any better. Last edited by vintagetoppsguy; 02-20-2015 at 11:27 AM.
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02-20-2015, 08:24 PM
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They probably won't name the fired official if they're going after him for theft or something criminal.
I can see a clubhouse guy being asked to return a ball to the field, Official says "Hey I grabbed the wrong ball, can you run this back out for me? " And if the handling is as sloppy as it seems to have been, he probably thought something like "Dumba** grabbed the K ball, I better get it back out there" With such sloppy work and no proceedures followed, we'll probably never know what really happened. Steve B
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02-20-2015, 11:42 PM
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Weird story for sure. That said, I think this goes back to the fact the league did NOT CARE nearly as much about its game balls as they let on after the deflate gate story broke, or as their "procedures" would imply. I think many of these procedures are mainly for show and to help uphold their silly "Shield" image, but are mostly lip service otherwise.
In a much more serious light (not to get too off topic), who thinks the Rooney Rule is for real? I didn't see the Niners interview many/any minority coaches after firing Harbaugh and cleaning house... but this rule looks good from a PR standpoint. Julian Edelman looked pretty wobbly after getting smacked by Kam Chancellor, but it seems he (and I'm sure many others, in every game) was able to effectively dodge the league's very public concussion protocol, which would have almost certainly kept him off the field for the last drive. And then there's the league's drug testing policy, where players get nearly a day's notice before their pee test. I think all of these (and many more) procedures and protocols are good for public consumption but mostly for show. The NFL seems to do as much as they can to sanitize the game for the fans/TV viewers, but football will always be a dirty, nasty, brutal, bloody, injury and concussion filled game. Separately, back on the topic of footballs I just got a new one, deciding to get that old Wilson 1005 ball I'd mentioned earlier. Wilson's box says something to the effect of- "made to the smallest allowable size for more confidence in throwing". Holding one of these compared to a normal game ball is crazy, and throwing a narrower ball is a far bigger advantage than lowering pressure, yet any HS or major college program can use them. This is fine to me though. Coaches, QBs can and have always been able to choose footballs they're most comfortable with and very few seem bothered by it. I have never heard fans gripe about a pass heavy team like the late '90s Florida (think Danny Wuerfel, Rex Grossman) using a totally different sized ball than Wisconsin or Nebraska. I don't really see why this has to all of a sudden change and become a big deal at the NFL level. I hope the NFL continues loosely enforcing game ball rules because I'd prefer QBs feel comfortable with their footballs, but I doubt they will after all this publicity.
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05-06-2015, 03:05 PM
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Now watch what you say, or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh, fanatical, criminal Won't you sign up your name? We'd like to feel you're acceptable, respectable, presentable, a vegetable If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.- Ulysses S. Grant, 18th US President.
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05-06-2015, 03:09 PM
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I guess the Patriots really are cheaters after all...
http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/...deflated-balls Edited: Todd beat me to it. I was trying to figure out which sources article to link. Last edited by vintagetoppsguy; 05-06-2015 at 03:12 PM.
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05-06-2015, 04:30 PM
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---more probable than not ---- over & over & over again!
No hard evidence there, no matter what you think!
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I've learned that I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy it.
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05-06-2015, 05:44 PM
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Fred,
You do understand that the great majority of civil cases in this country are decided by that exact same standard--more probable than not or more likely than not? Every day in every State people are awarded damages and others found liable using this same standard, and it has been that way for 200 years. It is truly sad to me that the general populace is so damn ignorant they think every dispute must be resolved beyond a reasonable doubt, and preferably with a smoking, gun, heartfelt confession and four different angles of video or it's simply "not hard evidence". You've got texts where the equipment guy proclaims himself to be "The Deflator" since at least the beginning of last season and that he was given a needle to use, the many other texts where he and another team/equipment guy are repeatedly talking about deflating footballs throughout the season and he'd better be getting new "kicks" and other goodies for his efforts, etc. You've got virtually every QB of any note whose played in the past 15 years stating there's no way Brady did not know what was going on as well as many text references to be him being pleased or displeased with these two equipment guys by the way the balls were inflated in this or that game, and you want to suggest it's not been proven to have happened? Really? How about this--: Quote:
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Now watch what you say, or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh, fanatical, criminal Won't you sign up your name? We'd like to feel you're acceptable, respectable, presentable, a vegetable If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.- Ulysses S. Grant, 18th US President. Last edited by nolemmings; 05-06-2015 at 06:11 PM.
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