How Rare is the 1933 Goudey Napoleon Lajoie?

[BBB]

Originally Posted by Sean

I know nothing about this set, so maybe this is a dumb question. Is this accurate, that there is only one Durocher card known?
And why would it have the same number as the Lajoie? Is it a misprint? Or a never produced proof?

The Durocher is legit. Don't think there is any info out there to explain its existence in a concrete fashion. My guess is this was a proof that Goudey had lined up and cut before production to create the marketing ploy. If the existence of this card could ever be nailed down to prove it was the cut card in the ploy, then it should be far more valuable than the lajoie.

Regardless this is a rare bird! Put it up there past the blue back ruth as the coolest oddity in Goudey history.

[Rollingstone206]

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[RGold]

Too much time on my hands.

http://imageevent.com/rgold/1933goudeylajoie

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Rollingstone206

Just my opinion, I don't think its THAT impressive of a rarity compared to other '33 Goudeys just about 13 times harder to find than a #92 Gehrig and price roughly reflects that to the same proportion.

yet for some reason...they just don't come up for sale very often?!

[Spike]

I vaguely recall seeing the original photo for Goudey's Lajoie, probably linked in a prior Net54 thread. Anyone else remember that photo? (I believe it was a portrait that Goudey added "shirt and arms" to after-the-fact.)

[Rollingstone206]

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[tedzan]

The final 24-card sheet in this GOUDEY set was printed and issued circa November 1933. The bios on the backs of these cards reflect the 1933 World Series.
I do not have a scan of this sheet, so here is my diagram of it which clearly shows 15 lower # cards included on it along with the final 9 cards of this set.

It certainly was a clever marketing trick by the Goudey Co. to issue these lower # cards at the end of the season, as it kept collectors** in the Spring of '33
buying Goudey packs looking for these cards. And at the same time, a mean trick to collectors of Goudey cards.


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**....This fact was confirmed in 1981 by an older collector who remembered as a kid in the Spring/Summer of 1933 spending all his allowance searching for
cards #106 - 114, and 121 - 129.


TED Z
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[philliesphan]

Originally Posted by Rollingstone206

PSA shows 82 graded #106 Napoleon Lajoie

Rather interesting looking at this longitudinally. (Since I am the aforementioned "Archive" in response #2 on this thread).

In 2003, there were 54 (PSA) and 7 (SGC) Lajoie cards graded. Today there are 82 (PSA) and 31 (SGC)

In twelve years, the population of this card graded has less than doubled, and that is not including any crack-outs or regrades.

Perhaps it goes to show that a good chunk of the Lajoie cards were professionally graded (largely by PSA) a very long time ago. Also interesting to note that over the last 12 years, SGC has graded almost as many Lajoies as PSA.

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[swarmee]

Originally Posted by philliesphan

Perhaps it goes to show that a good chunk of the Lajoie cards were professionally graded (largely by PSA) a very long time ago. Also interesting to note that over the last 12 years, SGC has graded almost as many Lajoies as PSA.

Interesting thought, and it jives with another I had when I watched the Mastro Auctions video of the Lionel Carter collection. All his cards were graded through SGC, and he notes in the video that for this card, those who wrote in to Goudey to complain about the card missing were rewarded with "10", count'em 10 Lajoie's. He also mentions Jefferson Burdick got 10. May be common knowledge for those who have collected vintage longer than I, but I didn't see it referenced in this thread.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Interesting thought, and it jives with another I had when I watched the Mastro Auctions video of the Lionel Carter collection. All his cards were graded through SGC, and he notes in the video that for this card, those who wrote in to Goudey to complain about the card missing were rewarded with "10", count'em 10 Lajoie's. He also mentions Jefferson Burdick got 10. May be common knowledge for those who have collected vintage longer than I, but I didn't see it referenced in this thread.

I watched the video years ago...and remember the story that burdick had multiples of the lajoie and gave carter one...BUT...I had never heard that "everyone" that wrote in to Goudey received 10 Lajoies...is there any evidence to support this?