B-Unc Felts - Real???

[packs]

That is a pretty good point. There isn't just one Wagner and there's no team identifier.

[matty39]

Here are mine. I also bought the four discussed above. As for cost. the average cost of the eight I already possess was around 250 dollars each. To pay 1100 dollars for arguably two hall of famers and the best first baseman of the deadball era isn't that much of a stretch, especially since three out of the four felts are unique and possibly one of a kind items. As to authenticity, I will have to be the judge of that and will do so when I have them in hand. The seller does have a 14 day return policy. And finally, the rather sarcastic remark that I paid too much for a Heinie, I find that in rather poor taste. If the felt is judged to be authentic, I will always consider him Honus. You however are free to always consider him to be Heinie. Sincerely, jim sexton

[glenv]

Hopefully they are real. If so, the price is pretty good. Here's my Wheat:

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[botport]

One piece of the puzzle that I feel may be of some importance as to the authenticity of these items is the frame. Impossible to draw a conclusion from the frame alone but it does look old to me. If and when the felts are removed from the frame I would be interested to see if there has been some discoloration on the black background. I am curious if the areas not covered by the felts are faded and the areas underneath the felts are darker. I doubt the piece sat in darkness for a hundred years so if they were framed circa 1910 I believe that there would likely be some sun damage. Not a concrete indicator either way, but something that I believe would add to the understanding of these items.

To the buyer, good luck with your purchase.

[birdman42]

Originally Posted by matty39

the rather sarcastic remark that I paid too much for a Heinie, I find that in rather poor taste. If the felt is judged to be authentic, I will always consider him Honus. You however are free to always consider him to be Heinie.

Jim,

Not intended as sarcastic, but a lame attempt at "humor." I, too, believe that is intended to be Honus. That's a fabulous group of unique pieces you've put together.

Bill

[autograf]

Interesting that only on the four most recent do the ends of the pennants not exist. You think you would have other examples out there where the ends don't exist. BUT....if they were being faked, and someone went to the lengths of getting all the details down to that miss, it seems implausible too. I think they're real and just a later or different printing or copycat job. Very neat stuff. Jim Sexton is the king of felts. Glad they made it into his collection.

[matty39]

Sorry for the tardiness of this reply, but I just got back from an eight day vacation. When I opened my package with the framed four pennants any concerns I may have had about authenticity evaporated. By having the pennants in hand and examining the frame I had no doubts I had the real deal. The felt on several of the pennants was faded on the front side due to light exposure. The frame was not the original but had been re-purposed to house the pennants. But it was obvious from the rust on the nails and the dryness of the backing that the pennants had been in the frame for many years. In fact the original picture that had been in the frame had been used to strengthen the backing. I am sorry if initially I over reacted to some of your questions of authenticity. Right now I am feeling much more secure. Thanks, jim

[matty39]

Some additional information. The picture I mentioned in the above post that I found in the backing of the old frame said on the reverse that it was sold at the"camp curry studio". Doing a little research, I found that camp curry was an early 1900s camp located in Yosemite park. The camp was founded in 1899 and was very active in the teens and later. This kind of helps to date the frame. Sorry about the size of the picture.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by matty39

Sorry for the tardiness of this reply, but I just got back from an eight day vacation. When I opened my package with the framed four pennants any concerns I may have had about authenticity evaporated. By having the pennants in hand and examining the frame I had no doubts I had the real deal. The felt on several of the pennants was faded on the front side due to light exposure. The frame was not the original but had been re-purposed to house the pennants. But it was obvious from the rust on the nails and the dryness of the backing that the pennants had been in the frame for many years. In fact the original picture that had been in the frame had been used to strengthen the backing. I am sorry if initially I over reacted to some of your questions of authenticity. Right now I am feeling much more secure. Thanks, jim

Congrats Jim, Those are definitely a little different design than most of the others known. I really like 'em.

[Bugsy]

I just wanted to bump this thread. I am wondering if anyone has seen any more of these show up in the past two years.

Thanks!

Chris