Hard work equals success PWCC

[Jdoggs]

+1

[dzolot]

Agree, PWCC is the best!! Glad you started this thread. I was the happy winner of some if their auctions this time around : )

I always think if I were ever to hire someone to sell, I would use PWCC. Fees are less than an auction house and they always get TOP dollar on eBay!

Speaking of which - anyone notice the (significant) premium they get for their auctions?
- The 93 SP box sold for $760, even though other have it up with a BIN well belwo that - I never understand how this happens...
- Topps 60 Yastrz. psa 8 sold for $1,600 - most sell for $600 range.
The list goes on and on.

[TanksAndSpartans]

Football doesn't end until Sunday - they usually stagger the sports.

My favorite thing about PWCC is they actually allow you to browse past auctions for free from their website - it's great price data.

And yes, I've seen a few head-scratchers - like a PSA 4 Bob Lily rookie going for more than a PSA 6 BIN. Maybe its loyalty? Maybe some people have their search agents set to auction only?

[1952boyntoncollector]

I sold a bunch of 1952 topps with them in their recent auction and got what I wanted plus a little more...

many of the bidders I recognized actually for some reason they always bid more on pwcc then they offer me direct...in some cases I still netted more money but in other cases...they paid more then they had too if they paid me direct and I received less if they just paid the lower price I was asking..always interesting how auctions sometime bring out the true feelings of the bidder...

[Exhibitman]

Seriously? After all of the threads we've had regarding the outcomes in PWCC and Probstein being the likely results of shilling? I mean, spend your money as you wish, but the anomalous price results are not brand loyalty or some other marketing genius, they are the consequences of an eBay system that allows consignor shilling.

[HRBAKER]

Adam must you always bring the rain when there's a parade?

[Shoebox]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Seriously? After all of the threads we've had regarding the outcomes in PWCC and Probstein being the likely results of shilling? I mean, spend your money as you wish, but the anomalous price results are not brand loyalty or some other marketing genius, they are the consequences of an eBay system that allows consignor shilling.

+1

Thanks for being willing to say it first.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Seriously? After all of the threads we've had regarding the outcomes in PWCC and Probstein being the likely results of shilling? I mean, spend your money as you wish, but the anomalous price results are not brand loyalty or some other marketing genius, they are the consequences of an eBay system that allows consignor shilling.

well here we go again..i consigned my cards..i didn't schill my own auction..

some went for 30% over VCP....you really think someone is shilling when its over 10% VCP? ..I know you will say every card isn't shilled but then why comment about when its possible the people remarking on this threads cards may not have been shilled when you comment makes it look like they all are..

I will let you know if I see any of the cards re-listed that I consigned by pwcc....but if I am already paid ..how does it benefit pwcc to relist it again...to get his money back? counting on getting more than 30% VCP ?

I understand there may be shilling potentially..but I just don't see it as rampant as to say its occurring on all cards....some of my cards went for under VCP as well......but in the whole they did fine..

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

well here we go again..i consigned my cards..i didn't schill my own auction..

some went for 30% over VCP....you really think someone is shilling when its over 10% VCP? ..I know you will say every card isn't shilled but then why comment about when its possible the people remarking on this threads cards may not have been shilled when you comment makes it look like they all are..

I will let you know if I see any of the cards re-listed that I consigned by pwcc....but if I am already paid ..how does it benefit pwcc to relist it again...to get his money back? counting on getting more than 30% VCP ?

I understand there may be shilling potentially..but I just don't see it as rampant as to say its occurring on all cards....some of my cards went for under VCP as well......but in the whole they did fine..

Everything isn't always about you.

[h2oya311]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

well here we go again..i consigned my cards..i didn't schill my own auction..

some went for 30% over VCP....you really think someone is shilling when its over 10% VCP? ..I know you will say every card isn't shilled but then why comment about when its possible the people remarking on this threads cards may not have been shilled when you comment makes it look like they all are..

I will let you know if I see any of the cards re-listed that I consigned by pwcc....but if I am already paid ..how does it benefit pwcc to relist it again...to get his money back? counting on getting more than 30% VCP ?

I understand there may be shilling potentially..but I just don't see it as rampant as to say its occurring on all cards....some of my cards went for under VCP as well......but in the whole they did fine..

+1 for some of my cards in the November auction. I didn't shill. Disappointed in some of the pre-war prices. Quite pleased with post-war. Rare cards didn't do as well as well-known / plentiful cards. Seems that they have a good business model going. I know where to consign my post-war rookie cards.

[kevlewis]

Not only does Brent run the best auction on ebay he is the nicest guy in the world. As a dealer I would trust him selling anything of mine. Truly the pinnacle of what hard work gets you. He shows up to the National Shows if you get the chance this year to come to Chicago in July!

Kevin

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

well here we go again..i consigned my cards..i didn't schill my own auction..

some went for 30% over VCP....you really think someone is shilling when its over 10% VCP? ..I know you will say every card isn't shilled but then why comment about when its possible the people remarking on this threads cards may not have been shilled when you comment makes it look like they all are..

I will let you know if I see any of the cards re-listed that I consigned by pwcc....but if I am already paid ..how does it benefit pwcc to relist it again...to get his money back? counting on getting more than 30% VCP ?

I understand there may be shilling potentially..but I just don't see it as rampant as to say its occurring on all cards....some of my cards went for under VCP as well......but in the whole they did fine..

No one said you shilled your cards, no one said all PWCC cards are shilled, no one said PWCC is shilling their own auctions. What I did say, and what many others have shown with bidder histories, is that PWCC and Probstein have a history of anomalous prices on items with bid histories that are driven by low feedback bidders with nearly 100% bidding in those sellers' auctions, which is indicative of consignor shilling, and that before we heap praise on the outcomes of these auctions it would be wise to look at the bidding history on the anomalous results.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Seriously? After all of the threads we've had regarding the outcomes in PWCC and Probstein being the likely results of shilling? I mean, spend your money as you wish, but the anomalous price results are not brand loyalty or some other marketing genius, they are the consequences of an eBay system that allows consignor shilling.

Um, I think the OP was making a joke. He was well known for demanding to be be able to shill his own lots before he would consign his items to auction houses. Of course the one that bit ended up with its owners indicted in part due to the grand jury, co-conspirator testimony of the OP. LOL!