Potentially fake D350-3 Standard Biscuit backed cards on eBay

[Leon]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

How can you tell it was done 10 years ago?

That being said 10 years ago we probably knew even less about these cards than today so regardless of when the item was graded I have serious doubts about the legitimacy of the back of these "Standard Biscuit" cards. It also doesn't change anything as the Walter Johnson and several others have the exact same number as the Ruth (only the last digits after hash mark are different, indicating they were on the same invoice).

It is the card Todd showed that was graded long ago. My mistake and edited above.. And I know because it was SGC that told me.

[nolemmings]

FWIW, the scan I showed of D350-3 Ruth came from a 2008 REA offering, so it's been around awhile. http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/.../2008/504.html

[the-illini]

I have never collected this issue so forgive me if this is a silly question - the CARDS themselves are real, but the stamp/printing on the back is what is believed to be fake, correct?

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by the-illini

I have never collected this issue so forgive me if this is a silly question - the CARDS themselves are real, but the stamp/printing on the back is what is believed to be fake, correct?

Have the same question.

[rhettyeakley]

Originally Posted by the-illini

I have never collected this issue so forgive me if this is a silly question - the CARDS themselves are real, but the stamp/printing on the back is what is believed to be fake, correct?

No idea on the cards themselves as I don't have one in front of me right now to check against a real one to determine that so I don't want to jump the gun and say the cards are fake/counterfeit. The back stamp is likely not real in my opinion based on the evidence. I really hope someone didn't mess with some real W575-1's and add backs to them to make them more desirable, a normal W575-1 card is worth a fraction of what a D350-3 card is worth, the D350-3's are actualy REALLY tough to find.

[ValKehl]

Rhett, thanks for catching this and initiating this thread. Right about now, I'm so glad I didn't chase the WaJo card (or the Joe Judge card, which I was the first under bidder on). "Sometimes, it's better to be lucky than good" describes how I feel right now!
Best,
Val

[swarmee]

around the printed/stamped back, you can see an faint wavy outline where it looks like these may have been printed separately, then affixed(?) with an iron/steam which then adhered them to the back and made them a little drippy? Or am I seeing things. The ones posted as authentic don't have a faint border in between the printed back text and the card edges, but the posted ones from the recent auction all seem to.

Caveat: I have no experience with this issue, just seeing differences between the scans.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by swarmee

around the printed/stamped back, you can see an faint wavy outline where it looks like these may have been printed separately, then affixed(?) with an iron/steam which then adhered them to the back and made them a little drippy? Or am I seeing things. The ones posted as authentic don't have a faint border in between the printed back text and the card edges, but the posted ones from the recent auction all seem to.

Caveat: I have no experience with this issue, just seeing differences between the scans.

To me it doesn't look like anything was affixed to the cards in question as much as they look to be somewhat crudely stamped.