Potentially fake D350-3 Standard Biscuit backed cards on eBay

[glchen]

Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

There's a Ruth with the same back in the current Hunt auction:
http://www.huntauctions.com/phone/imageviewer.cfm

Here's the picture.

[rhettyeakley]

Good catch on the Ruth, whenever you are talking about a high dollar card like a D350-3 Ruth would be that certainly makes things more interesting

Based on the serial number on that Babe Ruth and the ebay cards, most have the same numbers (at least the WaJo and several of the others on ebay) so they were graded together.

[nolemmings]

That Ruth also looks much more like an American Caramel to me (or w575-1) than a Standard Biscuit. Note that on the right side of the photo there is a dark-shaded stripe that is often seen with American Caramels and w575-1s (so too on the ebay Faber). I do not recall ever seeing this on a Standard Biscuit d350-3, although maybe Rhett has. Instead the photos are "cleaner". I also suspect that if a particular card has that "stripe" on a Standard Biscuit, then all examples share the trait, yet here is a Ruth D350-3 that lacks it:

[Leon]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

Good catch on the Ruth, whenever you are talking about a high dollar card like a D350-3 Ruth would be that certainly makes things more interesting

Based on the serial number on that Babe Ruth and the ebay cards, most have the same numbers (at least the WaJo and several of the others on ebay) so they were graded together.

The Ruth was graded around 10 yrs ago.

[rhettyeakley]

Leon, I have no problem with the D350-3 Ruth Todd just posted a scan of as it is 100% legit w/ the clear back and the "old style" SGC holder with the hologram at top on back.

The Ruth in the Hunt Auction that Gary posted a scan of is the questionable one, I don't think that one was graded that long ago (but before SGC switched to their new holders) as it has the "newer style" embossed SGC instead of the hologram at top on back.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

Leon, I have no problem with the D350-3 Ruth Todd just posted a scan of as it is 100% legit w/ the clear back and the "old style" SGC holder with the hologram at top on back.

The Ruth in the Hunt Auction that Gary posted a scan of is the questionable one, I don't think that one was graded that long ago (but before SGC switched to their new holders) as it has the "newer style" embossed SGC instead of the hologram at top on back.

I was commenting on the Hunt Auction one.....and now I see it was recently graded..My error, someone else told me about the "other one" being graded 10 yrs and I thought he was talking about the Hunt Ruth, but he wasn't, or he was mistaking.

[rhettyeakley]

How can you tell it was done 10 years ago?

That being said 10 years ago we probably knew even less about these cards than today so regardless of when the item was graded I have serious doubts about the legitimacy of the back of these "Standard Biscuit" cards. It also doesn't change anything as the Walter Johnson and several others have the exact same number as the Ruth (only the last digits after hash mark are different, indicating they were on the same invoice).

[Leon]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

How can you tell it was done 10 years ago?

That being said 10 years ago we probably knew even less about these cards than today so regardless of when the item was graded I have serious doubts about the legitimacy of the back of these "Standard Biscuit" cards. It also doesn't change anything as the Walter Johnson and several others have the exact same number as the Ruth (only the last digits after hash mark are different, indicating they were on the same invoice).

It is the card Todd showed that was graded long ago. My mistake and edited above.. And I know because it was SGC that told me.