Ruth and Gehrig Balls - Authentic?

[parker1b2]

Here you go:

http://myccsa.com/Lot.aspx?LotID=444936

[VAYankee]

...looks like the "consignor" is cleaning house. Here is a list of auto balls and associated pricing I just received. What is this forgery ring in Florida someone mentioned? Why is nothing done to try and stop them? If anyone here is interested in these balls, let me know. :-)

"Grover Alexander $3995
Edward Barrow $999.99
Jim Bottomley $1495
Roy Campanella $1695
Roberto Clemente $3495
Mickey Cochrane $1495
Eddie Collins $2495
Dizzy Dean $1995
Joe DiMaggio $695
Huge Duffy $1495
Jimmie Foxx $2995
Frankie Frisch $1495
Lou Gehrig $4995
Josh Gibson $3495
Hank Greenberg $1695
Lefty Grove $1995
Harry Heilmann $1995
Herbert Hoover $2995
Rogers Hornsby $2995
Walter Johnson $3995
John Kennedy $4995
Bill Klem $999.99
Nap Lajoie $2995
Kennesaw Landis $1995
Connie Mack $1995
Mickey Mantle $695
Roger Maris $999.99 SOLD
Ducky Medwick $1695
Mel Ott $2995
Satchel Paige $1495
Ronald Reagan $1999.99
Jackie Robinson $2995
Franklin Roosevelt $4995
Babe Ruth $4995 SOLD
George Sisler $2495
Tris Speaker $2995
Harry Truman $2995
Arky Vaughn $995
Honus Wagner $3995
George Weiss $995
Ted Williams $695
Hack Wilson $1995
Cy Young $3995"

[thetruthisoutthere]

[QUOTE=VAYankee;1374318] Why is nothing done to try and stop them? )

A few of of us have been trying for years, but one cares except us in the autograph hobby.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by VAYankee

...looks like the "consignor" is cleaning house. Here is a list of auto balls and associated pricing I just received. What is this forgery ring in Florida someone mentioned? Why is nothing done to try and stop them? If anyone here is interested in these balls, let me know. :-)

"Grover Alexander $3995
Edward Barrow $999.99
Jim Bottomley $1495
Roy Campanella $1695
Roberto Clemente $3495
Mickey Cochrane $1495
Eddie Collins $2495
Dizzy Dean $1995
Joe DiMaggio $695
Huge Duffy $1495
Jimmie Foxx $2995
Frankie Frisch $1495
Lou Gehrig $4995
Josh Gibson $3495
Hank Greenberg $1695
Lefty Grove $1995
Harry Heilmann $1995
Herbert Hoover $2995
Rogers Hornsby $2995
Walter Johnson $3995
John Kennedy $4995
Bill Klem $999.99
Nap Lajoie $2995
Kennesaw Landis $1995
Connie Mack $1995
Mickey Mantle $695
Roger Maris $999.99 SOLD
Ducky Medwick $1695
Mel Ott $2995
Satchel Paige $1495
Ronald Reagan $1999.99
Jackie Robinson $2995
Franklin Roosevelt $4995
Babe Ruth $4995 SOLD
George Sisler $2495
Tris Speaker $2995
Harry Truman $2995
Arky Vaughn $995
Honus Wagner $3995
George Weiss $995
Ted Williams $695
Hack Wilson $1995
Cy Young $3995"

I bet this is the "Walter Johnson" forgery they are attempting to sell.

They sell Walter Johnson forgeries every month.


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[Runscott]

I like how they put 'SOLD' next to a few of them

[VAYankee]

They did claim the Ruth ball that they offered to me (it's the one pictured in the beginning of this post) was purchased by someone who wasn't concerned with the cert. This was the feedback I got this morning:

"We were able to reach an agreement with the buyer....so this Ruth bb is sold.

I remember you told me you once got burned before on a purchase. Now I believe, unless these guys like Ruth and Gehrig either tell you they actually signed the bb, or left behind an affidavit before they died that they did so, you are not going to be comfortable. It certainly is your prerogative, but in the business we refer to it as “paralysis by analysis.”

This really burned me, because I had the nerve to seek clarity on the cert and ball. I have to admit that I feel like an ass now. I was led to these guys by my best friend. I bought a Joe D ball from them, which I'm now guessing is fake. Plus, they have been selling these limited quantity, laser engraved balls signed by contemporary players, e.g. Kershaw, Trout, McCutchen, etc., who have recently won an award. I did buy a Kershaw ball too, although fortunately that's it. I'm guessing the forgery ring in Florida is behind those too. I should have been more careful, because when I saw that they were offering a Derek Jeter ball too that seemed odd - I didn't think Steiner would allow him to sign other stuff. They claimed he was allowed to sign a limited quantity of items outside his contract. After I bought the Kershaw ball, the story changed to that Jeter's contract with Steiner ended when he retired. Sigh....