Ruth and Gehrig Balls - Authentic?

[shelly]

Joe Dimaggio estate bought the rights from Morris Engelberg the attorney to sell of all of the Joe d PIctures, baseball and other crap. He lost a fortune trying to do it.Every bank in NC. had civil suites against him.
He then had the Idea since he had the name Joe D Estate he would put up anything for sale. He move his operation to Minnesota where B&J sold thousands of pieces with Joe d stickers including fake Ruths Paige's and anyone else he could get his hands on.
The garbage you put up there is something a blind man would know is bad.
I really think most of the people have been very patient with you. I guess you can not understand the word no.

[ruth-gehrig]

This ones on the site....only $2700 with Morales COA.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by shelly

Joe Dimaggio estate bought the rights from Morris Engelberg the attorney to sell of all of the Joe d PIctures, baseball and other crap. He lost a fortune trying to do it.Every bank in NC. had civil suites against him.
He then had the Idea since he had the name Joe D Estate he would put up anything for sale. He move his operation to Minnesota where B&J sold thousands of pieces with Joe d stickers including fake Ruths Paige's and anyone else he could get his hands on.
The garbage you put up there is something a blind man would know is bad.
I really think most of the people have been very patient with you. I guess you can not understand the word no.

They simply wait for suckers to buy their garbage.

The majority of people (not true autograph collectors) who buy this crap, usually buy on impulse and have no idea what they are looking at.

It's disgusting.

[VAYankee]

Thanks for all the feedback. I truly appreciate it. I actually am not looking for a reason to buy something from them. On the contrary, I have had my suspicions about them and their merchandise and have frankly frustrated them with my questions. It appears I was correct, although I couldn't put my finger on it. They just sent another email with another ball from the same consignor, will post it up.

[VAYankee]

Asking $4k for this ball. While I might not be able to pick out a fake as well as others on this forum, $4k for a ball signed by Ruth and Cobb like this is way below market. I need to find the older threads that point out what to look for when evaluating the signatures of Ruth, Gehrig, Cobb, etc.

"This vintage, red-laced baseball is unmarked and unlabeled, and comes cubed in G+ condition. It is hand-signed on the sweet spot by both original 1936 HOF Inductees, including Babe Ruth in black and Ty Cobb in green, and will show off superbly upon display. Comes with a full LOA from longtime collector and memorabilia specialist Barry Halper for authenticity purposes, and books well into the thousands!"

[parker1b2]

Here you go:

http://myccsa.com/Lot.aspx?LotID=444936

[VAYankee]

...looks like the "consignor" is cleaning house. Here is a list of auto balls and associated pricing I just received. What is this forgery ring in Florida someone mentioned? Why is nothing done to try and stop them? If anyone here is interested in these balls, let me know. :-)

"Grover Alexander $3995
Edward Barrow $999.99
Jim Bottomley $1495
Roy Campanella $1695
Roberto Clemente $3495
Mickey Cochrane $1495
Eddie Collins $2495
Dizzy Dean $1995
Joe DiMaggio $695
Huge Duffy $1495
Jimmie Foxx $2995
Frankie Frisch $1495
Lou Gehrig $4995
Josh Gibson $3495
Hank Greenberg $1695
Lefty Grove $1995
Harry Heilmann $1995
Herbert Hoover $2995
Rogers Hornsby $2995
Walter Johnson $3995
John Kennedy $4995
Bill Klem $999.99
Nap Lajoie $2995
Kennesaw Landis $1995
Connie Mack $1995
Mickey Mantle $695
Roger Maris $999.99 SOLD
Ducky Medwick $1695
Mel Ott $2995
Satchel Paige $1495
Ronald Reagan $1999.99
Jackie Robinson $2995
Franklin Roosevelt $4995
Babe Ruth $4995 SOLD
George Sisler $2495
Tris Speaker $2995
Harry Truman $2995
Arky Vaughn $995
Honus Wagner $3995
George Weiss $995
Ted Williams $695
Hack Wilson $1995
Cy Young $3995"

[thetruthisoutthere]

[QUOTE=VAYankee;1374318] Why is nothing done to try and stop them? )

A few of of us have been trying for years, but one cares except us in the autograph hobby.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by VAYankee

...looks like the "consignor" is cleaning house. Here is a list of auto balls and associated pricing I just received. What is this forgery ring in Florida someone mentioned? Why is nothing done to try and stop them? If anyone here is interested in these balls, let me know. :-)

"Grover Alexander $3995
Edward Barrow $999.99
Jim Bottomley $1495
Roy Campanella $1695
Roberto Clemente $3495
Mickey Cochrane $1495
Eddie Collins $2495
Dizzy Dean $1995
Joe DiMaggio $695
Huge Duffy $1495
Jimmie Foxx $2995
Frankie Frisch $1495
Lou Gehrig $4995
Josh Gibson $3495
Hank Greenberg $1695
Lefty Grove $1995
Harry Heilmann $1995
Herbert Hoover $2995
Rogers Hornsby $2995
Walter Johnson $3995
John Kennedy $4995
Bill Klem $999.99
Nap Lajoie $2995
Kennesaw Landis $1995
Connie Mack $1995
Mickey Mantle $695
Roger Maris $999.99 SOLD
Ducky Medwick $1695
Mel Ott $2995
Satchel Paige $1495
Ronald Reagan $1999.99
Jackie Robinson $2995
Franklin Roosevelt $4995
Babe Ruth $4995 SOLD
George Sisler $2495
Tris Speaker $2995
Harry Truman $2995
Arky Vaughn $995
Honus Wagner $3995
George Weiss $995
Ted Williams $695
Hack Wilson $1995
Cy Young $3995"

I bet this is the "Walter Johnson" forgery they are attempting to sell.

They sell Walter Johnson forgeries every month.


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