Another eBay Scammer - Martin Winkley aka fristbase9

[Bugsy]

Just a quick update. I offered him a refund if he sent the card to either PSA or SGC and was rejected as not being authentic. Of course he said he sent it to PSA, but won't provide any proof that he sent it there or any information on what they sent him.

Of course he never really sent it to PSA in the first place because he already told me that it was his buyer (the one that backed out on him) that supposedly told him it was a fake.

I was on the phone with eBay for an hour. Of course neither person was helpful, but at least I escalated this case showing this was a buyer's remorse situation.

I'm sure the fun is only half over too. I know eBay sides with buyers 99% of the time. If this guy does end up returning it to me, will it arrive in the same condition that I sent it in? Or will it even be the same card?

[pclpads]

Sounds like "buyer's remorse." Or the douche factor a seller often encounters on feebay. Good luck!

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Bugsy

Just a quick update. I offered him a refund if he sent the card to either PSA or SGC and was rejected as not being authentic. Of course he said he sent it to PSA, but won't provide any proof that he sent it there or any information on what they sent him.

Of course he never really sent it to PSA in the first place because he already told me that it was his buyer (the one that backed out on him) that supposedly told him it was a fake.

I was on the phone with eBay for an hour. Of course neither person was helpful, but at least I escalated this case showing this was a buyer's remorse situation.

I'm sure the fun is only half over too. I know eBay sides with buyers 99% of the time. If this guy does end up returning it to me, will it arrive in the same condition that I sent it in? Or will it even be the same card?

If you get the same card back in the same condition you sent it in you will be lucky. About a year ago a friend sold a 53 Willie Mays and the seller claimed he got a reprint. Well he did send my friend back a reprint and the seller got a free real 53 Mays and his money back. A few bad people have ruined eBay for many people.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by bnorth

If you get the same card back in the same condition you sent it in you will be lucky. About a year ago a friend sold a 53 Willie Mays and the seller claimed he got a reprint. Well he did send my friend back a reprint and the seller got a free real 53 Mays and his money back. A few bad people have ruined eBay for many people.

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funny that I have made offers to sellers through paypal as a buyer...and the seller feels safer going through ebay and deals were lost as I wasn't willing to pay the additional 10% ...not sure what the seller really gains with that....the buyer..yes..but not the seller.

[shammus]

Chris- maybe I can help. The Raymond would find a good home with me. I'm needing it for completion still and I know you and I chatted before. When you get the card back, shoot me a note.

-Brian