SGC you need new holders.

[glchen]

Originally Posted by pclpads

I know this board tends to go ballistic whenever anything positive is said about PSA. But for the reasons mentioned by the OP and the fact that clearly o/c cards don't seem to faze SGC for slabbing them in higher grades is why I never sub to them. And no, I am not a PSA shareholder and JO is not a relative.

Don't forget that PSA has its own holder issues which are similar to SGC's such as the cases where the card "floats" in the holder. This occurs where the PSA insert doesn't fit the card size very well, so the card floats inside the holder. Can't find the thread, but I remember there was an example in an auction where there was a high grade PSA card was floating diagonally inside the holder. In terms of pure card protection, Beckett is probably still the best as the insert typically always matches the card, and the holder is a brick so it's practically tamper proof.

[iwantitiwinit]

Received an email back from Dave Forman at SGC earlier today. I'm not going to post it here but he is aware of the problem and working to resolve it. If he gives me anymore specifics I will let you know.

[sb1]

I cracked one of the new label oversize holders today and it had not one but two gaskets, so apparently they have begun to use that strategy to keep cards from sliding over or under the gaskets, especially while being tossed around in transit.

[smtjoy]

Glad SGC is working on this. I just got a sub back and they are using a plastic gasket on this M101-6 I sent in, not crazy about the glare but protecting the card is whats most important to me so happy they are trying-

[sb1]

Also had one of those last week.

[the-illini]

Originally Posted by sb1

I cracked one of the new label oversize holders today and it had not one but two gaskets, so apparently they have begun to use that strategy to keep cards from sliding over or under the gaskets, especially while being tossed around in transit.

Putting an extra gasket in sounds like a band-aid, not a fix. Can't imagine it looks too good either.

[sb1]

Actually I had no idea there were two until I opened it. Could not tell from the outside.

[bobbyw8469]

I guess I am confused. Is it not just as simple as having a thicker gasket to help keep the tobacco cards in place?

[steve B]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I guess I am confused. Is it not just as simple as having a thicker gasket to help keep the tobacco cards in place?

It could be, but a business of any size would buy a bunch at a time so they'd be less expensive. So if they bought 10,000 gaskets doubling up is the best way to both make an interim fix and use up the old stock quicker.

Steve B

[KCRfan1]

Originally Posted by the-illini

Putting an extra gasket in sounds like a band-aid, not a fix. Can't imagine it looks too good either.

I wonder if any cards could slip between the gaskets?

[JasonD08]

I had mostly used sgc in the past. Until they change their holders I am done (and ugly new labels). The black is nice, but gaskets are not great. My last several dozen subs have went to PSA including pre war which I rather go to SGC. Perhaps the budget is not there anymore to make a major needed fix.

[the-illini]

Originally Posted by JasonD08

I had mostly used sgc in the past. Until they change their holders I am done (and ugly new labels). The black is nice, but gaskets are not great. My last several dozen subs have went to PSA including pre war which I rather go to SGC. Perhaps the budget is not there anymore to make a major needed fix.

Same here Jason. I prefer the look of SGC holders but I have had too many cards slide around and get damaged. PSA will get my business from now on.

I also dont see how adding a second gasket secures the card any better than a single gasket does.

[TanksAndSpartans]

Could someone please show an image of the issue of cards slipping in the SGC holder? Where is the gasket? How is what they do different from the other companies? Thnaks.

[CW]

Originally Posted by DezHood

Could someone please show an image of the issue of cards slipping in the SGC holder? Where is the gasket? How is what they do different from the other companies? Thnaks.

Here's a thread with a few examples:

Link

The "gasket" that everyone is referring to is the black insert with the square cut out for the card, which is intended to frame the card and help hold it into place.