Another Antiques Roadshow Tobacco collection.. Wow!

[barrysloate]

Bieg- Thanks for coming on and sharing that information. Has your wife ever considered getting the cards professionally graded? While it is not a necessity, it really wouldn't be a bad idea.

Regarding the Cobb, it looks like it would grade a 5 or a 6, maybe even a 5.5, who knows, and is likely worth some thing north of $5000. The most amazing thing about the collection, as Simeon said, is of course the condition. It's tough to keep them that nice for a hundred years.

[mrvster]

+ 1 what Barry said...

GET THEM SGC GRADED!

inmho....sgc the best......psa is second best(taste great less filling)

that will at least truly protect them and protect you....

please consider mr magee with bat for mrvster in any future(unless I get one sooner)

Please tell us how many 460 and 350 frame and no frames! we love to know

if you want

thanks again for sharing....we live for this stuff

[mrvster]

if your wife's uncle(rest his soul and THANK GOD he saved the cards).... was a drum or broadleaf smoker, you'd be planning your retirement right now

[Bieg]

She will NOT send them off somewhere out of her sight and I can't blame her. If and when she decides to sell them the auction house can grade them at that time.

As she is not a trader, buyer or seller the grading (other than having an idea what to insure them for which Roadshow gave her) is meaningless to her. I know that idea is heresy to you guys. Her point of view is they are wonderful, she loves to study them and just enjoys them for their beauty.

For what it is worth the photos are a true representation of the cards warts and all. No Photoshop tricks (other than compositing the front & back into one image) to pretty them up. You guys should be able to get a good idea of the quality

[Bieg]

Are there T202 Hassan Triple Folder experts here also?

My favorites are her T202s and they ALL are like this one below;

T202 (Ty Cobb Steals Third) H.Jennings-T.Cobb-001.jpg


Would this be the top grade in this series? Am I correct in assuming that they ALL were folded when they were in the pack of cigarettes or did these only come if you bought a carton and ones that have never been folded would be "mint"?

[mrvster]

I am a true collector.....I enjoy the cards like your wife does....I love to smell them, stare at them, find examples....

I appreciate the fact that she enjoys them for their true beauty, as I do...

I can appreciate where she's coming from....

my true suggestion, is have her enjoy them.....then, when it's time, pass them on to your kids, or like you said auction them off....but, JUST ENJOY THEM!

condition, for me, is really not an issue when it comes to collecting my cards....

actually, the uglier , the better

[mrvster]

"American Beauties!"

[mrvster]

[T206.org]

Johnny, that full-size AB Konetchy is amazing!!

[mrvster]

for American Beauties, T206, old cardboard , and most of all GREAT collectors and friends like I have met on this board!

many of my American beauties were graciously given to me by true collectors from this board....GOD BLESS YOU GUYS! you know who you are...

you collectors are the "true American beauties"

Beig and your wife....congrats on a great collection, I hope to see more of them!! thanks for continuing to share....and ENJOY!

btw.....we would love to have you and your wife continue to enjoy net54....you guys will love it here!

my true passion is T206 printer's scrap, or the "Wagner"

I am johnny, and I am a T206 NUT

[Bieg]

Please tell us how many 460 and 350 frame and no frames! we love to know

Out of 105 American Beauty backed T206s there are

54 - 350 Frame

28 - 350 No Frame

23 - 460

What is the significance of this? Different years in the set?

[barrysloate]

Originally Posted by Bieg

Are there T202 Hassan Triple Folder experts here also?

My favorites are her T202s and they ALL are like this one below;

Attachment 176239


Would this be the top grade in this series? Am I correct in assuming that they ALL were folded when they were in the pack of cigarettes or did these only come if you bought a carton and ones that have never been folded would be "mint"?

Yes Bieg, triplefolders are found only with the two folds between the end and center panels. But over time the folds will weaken and this will be apparent to the eye. That Cobb is gorgeous. Grading is tricky and is tough enough to do in person, but nearly impossible from a scan. It looks NRBMT or better (7 or 8), but the pros might feel otherwise.

I understand your wife's choice not to grade them, and that is fine. But you do not have to worry about letting the cards out of your sight. If you use any of the top companies, they won't steal them or switch them out. They will do it right. But you are correct any auction company will do it for you.

To answer a different questions, T206 was issued in series, and the 350's appeared before the 460's. I am not sure why there are both frame and no frame American Beauties, but I'm sure somebody here knows more than I do.

[btcarfagno]

Wonderful to hear from the original owners of this collection. I won't be of much help as I am a noob where T cards are concerned.

I am so glad to hear that your cards will remain as they were intended to be...raw. Some call graded cards "entombed" and there is a reason for that. There is absolutely something special to the ability to hold the actual card in your hand (or at least being able to take it from its plastic holder if you ever wanted to....definitely good to keep them safe in those at least).

There are many here with decades of knowledge at your disposal.

I'm pretty much just sitting here at work drooling all over the keyboard. At the scans. Not your wife. Although...



Tom C

[Bieg]

Trying to get a handle on what size files can be uploaded to the gallery and how they look.

[brob28]

Bieg, thank you for sharing information with us on the site, you and your wife truly have an amazing collection. It's refreshing to hear your wife enjoys them and wants to keep them. Many times the heirs have no interest and sell immediately. When the time comes to sell, an auction house will most likely recommend you have them graded, in my opinion that is the best way to maximize your value. As was pointed out earlier, it's difficult to accurately determine grade from scans, so many collectors look for some additional assurance from grading companies when they are looking to bid on cards.

When I saw the show I could not believe how vibrant the colors were and of course the condition is amazing. Keep posting pictures, we love 'em.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Bieg

She will NOT send them off somewhere out of her sight and I can't blame her. If and when she decides to sell them the auction house can grade them at that time.

As she is not a trader, buyer or seller the grading (other than having an idea what to insure them for which Roadshow gave her) is meaningless to her. I know that idea is heresy to you guys. Her point of view is they are wonderful, she loves to study them and just enjoys them for their beauty.

For what it is worth the photos are a true representation of the cards warts and all. No Photoshop tricks (other than compositing the front & back into one image) to pretty them up. You guys should be able to get a good idea of the quality

This is refreshing...and is the reason many of us got into vintage cards in the first place...for their beauty and historical interest...to us! Good for her. I hope if and when they are ever sold they are sold as a group...alhough this is not a likely scenario that they will ultimately stay together!