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Old 01-22-2015, 07:15 AM
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Sorry for the small scan...its the best I can do here at work.

I have consigned my T206 Phillippe "no name" card to REA for their spring blockbuster auction.

In the past I have contacted both SGC and PSA to determine if they would grade this card...and if so...how...with frustrating results!

This card is back from PSA. So what did it grade?

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Old 01-22-2015, 07:19 AM
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Old 01-22-2015, 07:22 AM
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If that's a surface wrinkle on the front, I'd say a 2? Assuming they deemed it authentic.
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If there is no paper loss it came back at 2.5
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Old 01-22-2015, 07:25 AM
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Looks VG to me as long as back is ok
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back is fine...that IS a surface wrinkle vertically on lower front.
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Old 01-22-2015, 07:30 AM
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Looks like a 1.5 to me with the miscut, crease, and corner wear.
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Packs...I am not a student of the nuances of grading...why do you say this is miscut?
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Corner wear and crease, my guess is 1.
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PSA 1.5 (I think I see a verticle crease in the bottom middle that goes about half way up the card).
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I would say a 2. Corners and wrinkle being the reason. I have certainly seen worse 2's, but that would be my guess.

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Packs...I am not a student of the nuances of grading...why do you say this is miscut?
I can't tell if it's off center or miscut from the scan. The tiny top border and huge bottom border say miscut to me. It also looks like the bottom border has an angle to it.
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I say 2.0. My question is whether they added "No name on front" or something similar to the flip. My guess is that PSA wouldn't have done that though I have seen it on a SGC flip.
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I'd go with 1.5 - the crease/wrinkle looks fairly large to me, centering, rounded corners. For me, that makes it 'Fair'.
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keep em coming...no one is correct yet.
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Does the card have a qualifier of some sort?
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keep em coming...no one is correct yet.
Oh, wait. You said PSA graded it. Then I'm changing my guess to a 3 thinking they missed that big crease.
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i'm shocked it's taken this long for someone to guess this!!!!
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Psa 2 (pd)
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Psa 2 (pd)
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2 (mk). Possibly because they think there is some erasure?
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Because I didn't see it guessed yet, and I have seen some graded this high with the same condition issues.
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Pete, my guess is 3 NNOF.
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And you guys aspire to be "professional" graders someday!!!!!!
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id grade it a 2 as long as the back is fine, but since you said its not a 2 maybe would psa really grade it 3.5?
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i wish a lot of you guys "were" professional graders!!!!!!
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i wish a lot of you guys "were" professional graders!!!!!!
ok then....they said it was COU - Counterfeit?
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My initial guess was a 2, but since a few people already guessed that, I bumped it up a few grades

I'm stumped too...what it be?


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My guess is they didn't grade it because they were unable to determine its authenticity...
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giving up is not an option...if you were a "professional" TPGrader could u just "give up?" I think not! Keep guessing dammit!
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My guess is they didn't grade it because they were unable to determine its authenticity...
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ok I guess that they didn't know what it is and sent it to SGC.....is that it?
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PSA 3 color variation
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ok I guess that they didn't know what it is and sent it to SGC.....is that it?
ding ding ding!!!!!!!!! good guess Leon...but NO!!!
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