Roy Campenlla Thoughts

[whyconform]

Taz do you have a link or the source to this "rarity scale"?

[Klrdds]

I agree that it is best to save your money and get a pre-accident autograph , besides his pre-accident signature I believe is very attractive and displays nicely.

[Klrdds]

Here is the link to that set registry PSA site http://www.psacard.com/dnasetregistr...tion.aspx?c=37

[daves_resale_shop]

If anyone is looking for one, please message me... My 1948 ap may be available for cash or trade.

Cheers!
Dave

[pooh528]

I am guessing that PSA is referring to his pre-accident signature, but at the same time I know psa has no issue authenticating those late 1980s signatures. There are dozens on ebay

[MacDice]

As a set collector, I would prefer a vintage signature but would take whatever I could get and a post-accident signature would probably be closer to my budget. I had a card sent into a show to get signed but he passed away before it could be done.

[tazdmb]

Originally Posted by MacDice

I had a card sent into a show to get signed but he passed away before it could be done.

Sadly, as an IP collector back then, I remember planning to go to that show in LA, it was going to be a rare public signing for him (flats only, of course!), but he passed shortly before the event.

[Teamgluck]

Originally Posted by Klrdds

Here is the link to that set registry PSA site http://www.psacard.com/dnasetregistr...tion.aspx?c=37

That set has a bonus 1 next to Addie Joss. If that means that that personal collector has a Addie Joss auto I would really like to see it and have never seen one before.

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by Teamgluck

That set has a bonus 1 next to Addie Joss. If that means that that personal collector has a Addie Joss auto I would really like to see it and have never seen one before.

I'm pretty certain that the Joss signed postcard was the one that was posted on net54 2-3 years ago. It was a postcard that was sent by Joss to his young son back at home in Toledo. If I recall right, it did not have Joss's full signature, but he wrote Joss when addressing the postcard to his son.

I saved the picture and printed it out as an exemplar. Sorry for the glare, but here it is. The address, postmark both support its credibility, IMHO.
This was sold in a major auction for big $$.

[tazdmb]

Originally Posted by Scott Garner

I'm pretty certain that the Joss signed postcard was the one that was posted on net54 2-3 years ago. It was a postcard that was sent by Joss to his young son back at home in Toledo. If I recall right, it did not have Joss's full signature, but he wrote Joss when addressing the postcard to his son.

To quote Yoda "No, there is another". I will let the owner decide if he wants to display it as we (as board members) are fortunate that he contributes to the boards.

[Klrdds]

Here is my Addie Joss. It is deemed as the only verifiable full name signature of him in existence, and is the exemplar used in Ron K's book.
I have heard that there are a total of 2 Joss's that are considered authentic.
1. The postcard listed above with the last name only, and
2. My full name example shown here.
I have heard of possibly another Joss signature out there but I have never seen it in over 40 years of collecting (I started collecting when I was 9 years old for the record).So I do not know if a 3rd is out there or not.
The red numbers are only "weighting" bonus points given for having those signatures in your collection, because those signatures are so rare that the population number of those signatures is unknown a true weight can't be given only assumed and therefore they are given an arbitrary weight of 1. They are not indicators of the population number known for those players autographs only "extra credit " for having them.

[mr2686]

Just to set the record straight. Campanella could move his hand but it would shake and he couldn't sign after the accident. He did not use a "machine", it was more like a brace to keep his hand in place so that he could hold the pen and move the top part of his hand enough to sign (think keeping the palm of your hand in one place while you try to sign). This is why, for the most part, the Roy and the first part of Campanella came out pretty good, but then got a little rough due to him having to stretch his hand to finish the autograph. These autographs are in no way "not authentic", just not as desirable. When you have a choice, it's better to get an earlier sig, but there's nothing wrong with the later ones. I'm speaking from experience because I got his autograph back in the 80's at one of his signings and was fascinated by his brace, and watched him for quite a long time. The 16x20 signed photo of him I got that day is still one of my favorites.

Updated: I just saw the youtube link to him signing in the early 70's, and I can tell you that whatever he was using then was not what us was using in the late 80's. I'd always wondered where the thought he used more of an autopen came from, and now I know.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Klrdds

I agree that it is best to save your money and get a pre-accident autograph , besides his pre-accident signature I believe is very attractive and displays nicely.

Got these (and many others) during spring training in 1957. Clearly the best thing I did as a 9 year old. Free too.