Regionals/Food Issues

[brian1961]

Marc---

I'm certain you are correct that the Felin's came into the hobby in the 80's. Rob Lifson may very well have discussed that in one of his then-yearly auction catalog. He is usually wise to try to include that type of hobby provenance and history in his listings. Of a certainty the cards were intended to be released. Obviously, they were produced by Milprint of Wisconsin, the same firm that did the baseball trading card promotions for Glendale, Stahl-Meyer, Briggs, Hunter Wieners, and the Peter's Meats 1961 Minnesota Twins. Also, the three-year run of Johnston Cookies Milwaukee Braves.

At this point in time, we only have the best that conjecture can offer, as to why Felin's never followed through with their Phillies trading card promotion.

As for Lummis, "I know KNOT-TING", as dear Sgt. Schultz from Hogan's Heroes would say. Except, an interesting observation given to me at one of the early major shows I attended in about 1973. I believe it was at the big one in Detroit. One of the prime dealers I loved to purchase cards from was Philadelphia resident Irv Lerner. At that time, Irv Lerner was first and foremost a collector. Among the major items on his advanced, high-powered radar were Lummis Peanut Butter cards. He told me that even in a massive convention as this one in Detroit, he seriously doubted he would encounter a Lummis anywhere in that large room. As a teen who appreciated fine postwar regional issues, that left a lasting impression on me. Whether or not he wound up getting one for his substantial collection that weekend, he never said anything, so I imagine his Lummis hunting efforts came up empty.

While I never was fortunate enough to get a Lummis card, I view them with an utmost admiration. Also, I lament no one in the adult hobby back then sought to write meaningfully about them, but then you'd have to find a former youngster who avidly collected them in 1949 to interview. Such a person might be tougher to locate than an actual Lummis card! It was probably a low-key one shot promotion to boost sales of a peanut butter that already was enjoying robust sales. Besides, the backside of your Lummis cards does not even mention the card promotion; rather, the main promotion in the company's eyes---how to win free tickets to a Philadelphia Phillies game.

Best regards, Marc. Must go. ---Brian Powell

[Bored5000]

As a Phillies fan, I always love reading about the Felin's Franks and Lummis Peanut butter cards as well. I wondered if there was a find of the Sealtest stickers last year when Heritage auctioned off a total of 22 of them. Of the 22 Sealtest stickers, 14 of them were Ashburn.

http://www.ha.com/c/search-results.z...sealtest+cards

Here is a 1995 article that talks about Ashburn super collector Fred McKie. The article mentions that McKie has (had) an Ashburn Lummis Peanut Butter card.

http://articles.philly.com/1995-07-2...on-memorabilia

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by Bored5000

As a Phillies fan, I always love reading about the Felin's Franks and Lummis Peanut butter cards as well. I wondered if there was a find of the Sealtest stickers last year when Heritage auctioned off a total of 22 of them. Of the 22 Sealtest stickers, 14 of them were Ashburn.

http://www.ha.com/c/search-results.z...sealtest+cards

Here is a 1995 article that talks about Ashburn super collector Fred McKie. The article mentions that McKie has (had) an Ashburn Lummis Peanut Butter card.

http://articles.philly.com/1995-07-2...on-memorabilia

Hi Eddie:

I forgot about that article. I still have my Lummis Ashburn.

Fred

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by whiteymet

Hi Eddie:

I forgot about that article. I still have my Lummis Ashburn.

Fred

LOL That was awkward. I didn't realize you could have posted your own article.

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by Bored5000

LOL Oh...I didn't realize you could have posted your own article.

Eddie:

I assume you know I did not post the article. It was written by an Inquirer reporter.

I meant I forgot that the article was written about me. Where did you see it posted?

Fred

[mrmopar]

It's cool that you had the chance to discuss or share some of the collection with Ashburn, despite him not having an interest.

I have often wondered about that. I know some celebrities do meet their "super fans" and although we probably won't know what they really think (STALKER!!!), at least in print they often seem fascinated by the collections.

I wonder if I ever had the opportunity to show off my collection to Steve Garvey, would he even care? Maybe he might take note of an item or two he had never seen before or in a very long time, but I suppose he sees a lot of stuff over the years at shows and signings. If he even cared at all, he'd probably need to see something really obscure.

Reminds me of when I met Dave Stewart at a signing a few years back. He commented that he had never seen the 1981 Long Beach Press Telegram item that I asked him to sign, but the best part was when he was checking out one of the early 80s Dodger police cards. He shared with me that he remembered the exact game from the photo. Apparently he had not seen one in a while and since I had dupes, I offered one to him and he seemed sincerely appreciative that I gave it to him.

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by whiteymet

Eddie:

I assume you know I did not post the article. It was written by an Inquirer reporter.

I meant I forgot that the article was written about me. Where did you see it posted?

Fred

Oh, I know you did not write the article. I just didn't realize that the subject of the article was on Net54 and posting in this thread. LOL.

When the words "Lummis Peanut Butter auction" are put into Google, that is the third hit that pops up. Other combinations of words that include "Lummis Peanut Butter" will also bring up the article.

[brian1961]

Fred---

Thanks for sharing with us the feature article concerning you and your fabulous Richie Ashburn collection.

Out of curiosity, were you ever able to pick up an Ashburn '62 Salada Coin with the 1-180 series back? I remember you doted on those Saladas. --Brian Powell

[philliesphan]

Originally Posted by Bored5000

As a Phillies fan, I always love reading about the Felin's Franks and Lummis Peanut butter cards as well. I wondered if there was a find of the Sealtest stickers last year when Heritage auctioned off a total of 22 of them. Of the 22 Sealtest stickers, 14 of them were Ashburn.

http://www.ha.com/c/search-results.z...sealtest+cards

Eddie -- I'm not sure it was a find, per se. My understanding was that at the Valley Forge Shows of the 1980s, Sealtest Stickers were available in the hundreds. I imagine that the ones Heritage had last year was probably the accumulation of some dealer/collector who sourced them from Valley Forge a few decades ago.

m

[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by philliesphan

Eddie -- I'm not sure it was a find, per se. My understanding was that at the Valley Forge Shows of the 1980s, Sealtest Stickers were available in the hundreds. I imagine that the ones Heritage had last year was probably the accumulation of some dealer/collector who sourced them from Valley Forge a few decades ago.

m

Thanks for the information.

[Exhibitman]

Dang, Fred, now that we know you're a super collector everything you want just went up in price 50%.

[brian1961]

Fred----I was in a hurry, natch. So, thanks Eddie for sharing the feature article his Ashburn collection. That's the kind of stuff we need on the postwar board.

My, Fred, "nuts" is the word. Or, preferably, steep----very steep. I wish I had interviewed you for my book on postwar regionals. Chapter 5 concerns the 1962 Salada Coins. The book is not for those who chase "the previously unknown added dot variation", though there is definitely some relatively new research presented. Rather, it will be a rare treat for the collector who has a genuine interest, curiosity, and consuming passion for these issues, and what it was like back in the day to collect them, and moving to the early days of the organized adult hobby, and finally, the complicated and sometimes frenzied world of third party authentication and grading. It's all good stuff.

When we spoke for a minute at the 1973 Detroit show at Troy regarding the '62 Saladas, you told me you'd just completed a run and Billy Pierce was the last coin you needed. Out of curiosity, as I ask such questions, what was the last coin you needed to finish your 1-180 series back collection? I'll bet you not only know, but remember it well. ---Brian Powell

[judgejules1]

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[Exhibitman]

Sweet milk carton! That Koufax is on my "want it but never likely to own it" list.

[judgejules1]

Adding one more to the thread - 1953-1954 Briggs Meats Willie Mays
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[Bored5000]

Originally Posted by brian1961

While I never was fortunate enough to get a Lummis card, I view them with an utmost admiration. Also, I lament no one in the adult hobby back then sought to write meaningfully about them, but then you'd have to find a former youngster who avidly collected them in 1949 to interview. Such a person might be tougher to locate than an actual Lummis card! l

I know this is an old thread, but the current REA auction seems like it should be relevant as to how how exactly the Lummis Peanut Butter cards were distributed. REA currently has an Ashburn Lummis card that a non-collector in the Philadelphia area originally obtained in 1949. It seems amazing that a non-collector would keep the card for 66 years, but REA auction doesn't answer the ovious question of how exactly they were distributed -- even after locating an original Lummis collector from 1949.

Here is an except from the current REA auction:

"This miracle card has been consigned directly from a non-collector in the Philadelphia area who obtained it in 1949 as a youngster and has saved it all these years. It is, unfortunately, the only example from this rare set that he kept over the last sixty-six years."


http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...x?itemid=38920