New to Dimaggio autographs

[shelly]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Which baseball are you betting on to be authentic, Shelly?

The one you said was bad.
I need someone to send me the picture of that ball so I can list it. I tried but I dont seem to be able to do it. No cet just the ball

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by shelly

The one you said was bad.
I need someone to send me the picture of that ball so I can list it. I tried but I dont seem to be able to do it.

I won't take your money from you, Shelly....I'll take that bet.

[shelly]

I went to his web site and he is selling a lot of bad stuff. I will still take the gamble.
Can you send me a picture so I can list it and get the quick opinion. I hate to be wrong on this but it happens. Gee Chris that is what you said about me. Tom if I am wrong you have my apologies.
Chris, I must be getting very old. Your eye is better than my eye.
Just send me the picture so I can list it.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by shelly

I went to his web site and he is selling a lot of bad stuff. I will still take the gamble.
Can you send me a picture so I can list it and get the quick opinion. I hate to be wrong on this but it happens. Gee Chris that is what you said about me. Tom if I am wrong you have my apologies.
Chris, I must be getting very old. Your eye is better than my eye.
Just send me the picture so I can list it.

I emailed you the photo of it, Shelly.

[shelly]

Did not get it.

[derrick07]

Thank you Shelly and Chris,
Very educational on the subject. Chris you said Mr Dimaggio is one of the most difficult to authenticate, is it due to the skill of the frauds or Dimaggios wasn't always that consistent on his signature?
Shelly if you are wrong, your insight warranted such excellent feedback that is exceptionally greater than just yes or no.
Thank you

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by derrick07

Thank you Shelly and Chris,
Very educational on the subject. Chris you said Mr Dimaggio is one of the most difficult to authenticate, is it due to the skill of the frauds or Dimaggios wasn't always that consistent on his signature?
Shelly if you are wrong, your insight warranted such excellent feedback that is exceptionally greater than just yes or no.
Thank you

Signatures change all of the time.

I probably own (I wrote "probably") every variation of Joe D's sig, and it's a matter of "training your eye" for characteristics.

Once you can do that, you can "look" at autographs that you aren't that familiar with and opine on them.

When it comes to explaining the "technicalities" of an autograph, I can't do it.

Remember that signed Joe D. bat that was posted on here? Everyone but Mr. Zipper and myself thought it was a forgery. I knew immediately it was authentic.

When you master your "eye," you can get some great deals without alerting the autograph community and asking them to opine on it.

I once picked up a Joe D. signed golf program for $28.00.

I've picked up a few snow-white Mickey Mantle autographed baseballs for between $160.00 and $220.00.

Once you get to a level of "training your eye," the deals are out there.

I learn something new about autographs every day. Yes, every day.

[derrick07]

Thank you everyone. Great community. Lots of expertise on this thread.
Thank you Chris for the detail

[Mr. Zipper]

This is the one in question, correct?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/221657522782

Note the slow, heavy connection between the gg and the slow, deliberate "io"

It's not quite as slow and wobbly as the fake B&J ball Chris posted, but in my opinion it is from the same hand.

Sorry, Shelly!

[shelly]

Wow, two people I trust. I am wrong. Sorry.
I saw so many B and J Dimaggio's this does not look like one of them. I saw more than one thousand bad Joe D balls from him. Chris I will send 12 dollars to your favorite Charity. Zip thanks, I will be a little more careful next time.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by shelly

Wow, two people I trust. I am wrong. Sorry.
I saw so many B and J Dimaggio's this does not look like one of them. I saw more than one thousand bad Joe D balls from him. Chris I will send 12 dollars to your favorite Charity. Zip thanks, I will be a little more careful next time.

No need to be sorry, Shelly.

If you want, can you please send the $12.00 to St. Judes Children's Hospital.

http://www.stjude.org/stjude/v/index...00290115acRCRD

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

This is the one in question, correct?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/221657522782

Note the slow, heavy connection between the gg and the slow, deliberate "io"

It's not quite as slow and wobbly as the fake B&J ball Chris posted, but in my opinion it is from the same hand.

Sorry, Shelly!

Exactly, Steve.

As there are variations in Joe D's sig (for every signer), those that pen forgeries, also have variations of the forgeries they pen.