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Old 01-12-2015, 11:47 AM
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We live in a " 1/3 world " ............

For example, did you know when George Washington crossed the Delaware river December 24th 1776 to attack Trenton, he had only 33 % of the Colonists
supporting him and his mission......

...... 33 % of the Colonists were loyal to the British, and

...... the other 33% couldn't be bothered to care, either way.

So, here we are 238 years since, and these same factors in human nature still exist.


Therefore, you know what...... I don't care who disagrees with me (and some members of this forum) ...... who believe that the 1910 COUPON cards are a
natural extension of the T206 set.


Incidently, if you really want to be informed, check-out Burdick's records and you'll find that his timeline on all three COUPON sets is 1914 - 1916.

So, we cannot fault him......he was unaware that the first series of COUPON cards were actually printed and issued in the Summer of 1910.



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Old 01-12-2015, 02:20 PM
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Really rare and a great card......thanks for posting it.



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Old 01-12-2015, 12:54 PM
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We live in a " 1/3 world "......

For example, did you know when George Washington crossed the Delaware river December 24th 1776 to attack Trenton, he had only 33 % of the Colonists
supporting him and his mission......

...... 33 % of the Colonists were loyal to the British, and

...... the other 33% couldn't be bothered to care, either way.

So, here we are 238 years since, and these same factors in human nature still exist.


Therefore, you know what...... I don't care who disagrees with me (and some members of this forum) ...... who believe that the 1910 COUPON cards are a
natural extension of the T206 set.


Incidently, if you really want to be informed, check-out Burdick's records and you'll find that his timeline on all three COUPON sets is 1914 - 1916.

So, we cannot fault him......he was unaware that the first series of COUPON cards were actually printed and issued in the Summer of 1910.



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And Ted, a big part of our hobby is categorizing things. Even as children, most of us piled up our cards by team, by position, by stats or even combined cards from different years. So I would never minimize the importance of deciding where the Coupons should be included.

In fact, I think I agreed with you on this, but having spoken with other forum members about this subject in depth, I think this topic is much like sheet-size - we'll never really know, so any well-thought-out theory defense is worth listening to, and certainly shouldn't cause anything more than heated discussion.
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That Ames Is INSANE!!

collectors haven't grasped yet the importance of those sweet cap 350-460 factory 30 NO OVERSTAMP!! that back is not possible with that player factory issued!! you got yours just in time......Jim R always stated how important and cool those y/b's sc 460's are.....

PLEASE POST THE IMPOSSIBLE COMBINATION BACK!

Once Chris B posts what we know so far, the will be highly sought after....



hint.....hint..............
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That Ames Is INSANE!!

collectors haven't grasped yet the importance of those sweet cap 350-460 factory 30 NO OVERSTAMP!! that back is not possible with that player factory issued!! you got yours just in time......Jim R always stated how important and cool those y/b's sc 460's are.....

PLEASE POST THE IMPOSSIBLE COMBINATION BACK!

Once Chris B posts what we know so far, the will be highly sought after....



hint.....hint..............
Johnny, I think the T206 scrap collectors DO realize the "importance" of these, but I think getting other card collectors to feel the same way is not only going to be difficult, but I don't think you and the other scrap collectors should really want that.

The 'problem' (from your point of view, not mine) is that the T206 issue is the only one where print scraps are considered worth multi-thousands of dollars. And that value is placed by you guys, by bidding against each other. The rest of the collecting world respects the market values that you are establishing and will certainly pay high prices if they think they can re-sell them to you later for a profit, but as far as "importance"…not so much.
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Old 01-12-2015, 02:22 PM
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as the collectors become more advanced and understand the set more , they will become to appreciate these more and desire them more....hence values/ prices will sore....sorry to disappoint you....you should have held onto your scrap ....you literally lost tens of thousands, could see why your a little turned from T206 scrap


I would be to if I let go all my scraps that wound up being 10-15 times what I sold them for!

THANK GOD I HAVEN'T SOLD MINE

I wasn't saying the collectors don't understand in a "bad" way, they just haven't been educated on them yet....we are still discovering more everyday about the production through these gems and clues......with out them, we can't truly understand the set the way we have....


how many t206 collectors realize that ames hand over head is not available factory issued with that back??? probably not a lot, until they reference the

the possible back combo's and see they are possible(unless you include the 6 superprints).....ON t206resource.com

scott, your just jealous cause you lost out big time when you dumped your awesome scrap back in the day........AND TOOK A BATH I'M SURE....I still wish I grabbed some more....ROB is happy


don't hate....

you dumped that overprint downey that I couldn't even try to afford!!

btw....I haven't bid on any cards in a long time ......funds have been tight...

so , I personally know the "thin" scrap market you talk about a few guys running up the prices has expanded through education....



I respect your ground breaking research on the matter, and do respect you, but can't help to set you straight sir..


yes my friend, you must be kicking your self for letting an 8k card go for a song back in the day, or any of the others.....

and now you must hate


embrace that collectors are truly starting to appreciate these gems.....

and...

btw...
to burst your bubble, most sets or issues aren't even close to as popular as the T206 set...





just a matter of time...

c'mon scott.....


respectfully


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how many t206 collectors realize that ames hand over head is not available factory issued with that back???
Learning something new everyday. Very cool!

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I have to say, was not fair of me to "rub salt" in your face, Scott......we have all regretted letting some cool cards go, and that wasn't right...
didn't want to seem like I was gloating in your loss..


was a low blow....I do not mean to kick a man when down....

was not right of me....

the scrap will speak for itself
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I have to say, was not fair of me to "rub salt" in your face, Scott......we have all regretted letting some cool cards go, and that wasn't right...
didn't want to seem like I was gloating in your loss..


was a low blow....I do not mean to kick a man when down....

was not right of me....

the scrap will speak for itself
It's funny that you still aren't willing to give up on that line of thinking and you try it again each time I question the prices being paid for your beloved printer scraps. I sold all of mine at a profit, and used the profit to buy other things, which I again sold at a profit - I'm probably still earning money off of the scraps I sold ten years ago.

Sounds like the regret is on your end, but I won't try to guess what's hurting you so bad other than possibly the inability to obtain all these wonderful cards you keep gloating over?

Just try using logic to explain your thinking - it works better than the proverbial straw man
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