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Old 01-10-2015, 02:04 PM
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That uniform corner rounding isnt a guarantee its a fake, but its a huge red flag.
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Old 01-10-2015, 02:16 PM
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That uniform corner rounding isnt a guarantee its a fake, but its a huge red flag.
Yeah, I see that now....can't believe I did not notice..

Don't worry, I was never considering purchasing the thing.

The last time I bought a raw high-dollar card, it was a Paige rookie that PSA declared as altered.

Otherwise, it's PSA-5s or better for me.

Thanks for all the input.
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The first thing to look for is the gap. The black line that frames/surrounds the photograph is very thin, yet the space between it and the photo is roughly the same width as the frame-line itself on an authentic m101-4/5. If the gap is of a width 3-6 times the width of that frame-line you need look no further because you've got a fake or reprint.

Some counterfeits have managed to defeat this tell-tale sign, so next look at the shoe. His raised foot should show a good portion of his shoe--at the heel, along the side and the front. Reprints and fakes cut off at the sock line, with maybe a hint of shoe only showing. That should do it.

I have seen at least one fake that was dangerously close, at least as a scan. It was a copied photo of a legitimate Ruth (I located the original from an auction house catalog) but it had a problem or two that gave it away. I also suspect that in hand the stock would have been noticeably different to the touch and/or that the "card" itself would be off where you could tell rather easily.
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The first thing to look for is the gap. The black line that frames/surrounds the photograph is very thin, yet the space between it and the photo is roughly the same width as the frame-line itself on an authentic m101-4/5. If the gap is of a width 3-6 times the width of that frame-line you need look no further because you've got a fake or reprint.

Some counterfeits have managed to defeat this tell-tale sign, so next look at the shoe. His raised foot should show a good portion of his shoe--at the heel, along the side and the front. Reprints and fakes cut off at the sock line, with maybe a hint of shoe only showing. That should do it.
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Todd,

Thank you for stating, with more clarity and much better detail, what I was trying to say in post #2.

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Yeah, I see that now....can't believe I did not notice..

Don't worry, I was never considering purchasing the thing.

The last time I bought a raw high-dollar card, it was a Paige rookie that PSA declared as altered.

Otherwise, it's PSA-5s or better for me.

Thanks for all the input.
Instead of PSA 5s I suggest you consider collecting baseball cards not holders, but that's just me and how I do it. If you really want some PSA 5 holders I am sure there are folks on this board who can send you some holders that say that on them. Don't blindly trust any TPG.......but good luck in the hunt!!

btw, what Todd said above is spot on.....99.99% of SN Ruths on ebay are fake
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That's a crappy reprint.

Also, why would you sell a potential 5 figure $$ card, ungraded? Also, they always seem to find a babe ruth rookie and 1952 topps mantle rookie at all of these "estate" sales.

Here is a page on the Net54 board, showing some good info on how to detect fake Ruth rookies in comparison to authentic ones:

http://net54baseball.com/forum/conte...tingfakes.html

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