No wonder the USPS is going broke

[Leon]

The whole problem comes down to one word for me, UNION. It makes for unrealistic anti-competitive practices. Unions should have been done away with 30-40 yrs ago.

[barrysloate]

Originally Posted by Leon

The whole problem comes down to one word for me, UNION. It makes for unrealistic anti-competitive practices. Unions should have been done away with 30-40 yrs ago.

Debatable.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by Leon

The whole problem comes down to one word for me, UNION. It makes for unrealistic anti-competitive practices. Unions should have been done away with 30-40 yrs ago.

UPS works with a Union. They seem to do just fine.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

UPS works with a Union. They seem to do just fine.

They don't have internal governmental control. Govt + Union= disaster

The govt is the most inefficient business there is, period.

My nominal understanding is the biggest issue of the USPS is paying their legacy UNION created liabilities.

Barry- we better debate this on the phone and not here. Sounds political to me.

[barrysloate]

I actually agree Leon that most of the reason the post office is going broke is that it has promised too much to their retirees, far more than they can afford to pay them. But I don't agree that all unions should be done away with. All I meant to say is there is room for debate....but not here

[Leon]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

I actually agree Leon that most of the reason the post office is going broke is that it has promised too much to their retirees, far more than they can afford to pay them. But I don't agree that all unions should be done away with. All I meant to say is there is room for debate....but not here

Yes there is, Barry. I am always open to good debate with you, mostly on the phone though. Glad to see you posting. Say hi to Judy for me.

[Jantz]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

But I don't agree that all unions should be done away with.

+1

Thank you Barry!


Jantz

[barrysloate]

Thanks Leon, will do.

Jantz-unions have done many good things to protect workers who are being exploited or who are forced to work in dangerous conditions.

On the other end, some are much too powerful and have promised retirees way too much, sending companies and institutions to the brink of bankruptcy (see GM, for example).

Somewhere between those extremes lies a happy medium...hopefully.

[Rich Klein]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

thanks leon, will do.

Jantz-unions have done many good things to protect workers who are being exploited or who are forced to work in dangerous conditions.

On the other end, some are much too powerful and have promised retirees way too much, sending companies and institutions to the brink of bankruptcy (see gm, for example).

Somewhere between those extremes lies a happy medium...hopefully.

mlbpa :d

[team-of-rivals]

Another example of the USPS' issues.....this was sent to me from a buyer after receiving his package the other day. Beautiful.....

[frankbmd]

Now I have to find my phone, just when I was getting ready to go to the Post Office. Oy vey!

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Leon

The whole problem comes down to one word for me, UNION. It makes for unrealistic anti-competitive practices. Unions should have been done away with 30-40 yrs ago.

I don't know if the union is the whole problem but is is a very big part of it.