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Old 01-09-2015, 07:23 AM
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Neat story Alan. What caused you to sell in the first place ? Had the dealer not been able to sell them, or had he just held them ? Did it cost a lot more to require them ? What caused the change of heart ? Did you're deal with Bob Lemke at SCD ?

Tom Bartsch is the current editor and if you contact him he might make the change. You can contact him through the SCD web site...tombartsch@fwmedia.com

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Old 01-09-2015, 08:18 AM
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I cannot remember if I dealt with Bob or Don (Fluckinger?) originally, but I will email Tom to see if I can get the listings corrected (thank you for his email address).

I sold the cards (along with most of the rest of my meager collection at that point) because I needed the money. I told him I would buy them back from him if he was unable to make a profit on them. Over the next several years, he offered to sell me the binder back (at cost). I declined several times because I did not have the money. He never had the binder with him, and I believe it was in his attic over the years.

Within the past several years, my situation changed, and I began trying to reacquire the binder. He and I would see each other at a few local shows every year, but he would always forget the binder! Finally, I saw him at a local show a few weeks ago and he had recently uncovered the binder in his attic. We met the next day and I purchased it for the same price I sold it for ten years ago.

I have mixed feelings when it comes to this set. It does not really fit in with my regular collections (one image of every Red Sox player, same for every HOFer, Cobb/Ruth photos and memorabilia, and 19th century stuff), but it is also cool to have the cards that changed the Standard Catalog listing.

I bought my first small group of these in the early 1990s at a flea market, and they included the Drysdale. It was my only un-catalogued card in my collection for years. I was amazed both at finding what I thought was a rare card, and that the regular set was so cheap in the catalog. I am still somewhat amazed at how cheaply this set lists at, but because of this, I was able to buy the red backed set for 10.00, and a pack with the Mantle for the same price.

I taught a dealer friend some of the nuances of the set, and he ended up doing well with grading them, and selling them to player registry collections. He found the Yaz version (I never found one). I am amazed at the prices he got for some of his graded ones, but I do not like grading (never bought a graded card and hopefully never will) and will not follow in his footsteps.

Of course, these cards are paper thin and look like they could have been photo copied yesterday. I hope (maybe too naively) that folks would not be reproducing these because of how cheap they are to begin with. To me, their price, along with the player selection (large number of HOFers) makes this set a really cool collectible from the late 1960s, and easily within most collectors' budgets.

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Old 01-09-2015, 08:47 AM
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They are always looking for articles for their magazine. You should consider doing a write up on it and your experiences with it. A sometimes poster here, Carlton Miller, has a passion for the Topps 1968 Milton Bradley game set and did an article on it that appeared recently in the magazine. He worked through Bartsch
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Old 01-09-2015, 05:27 PM
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Thanks Alan, should you decide to sell, please let me know. Randy
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Old 01-10-2015, 09:51 AM
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Has anyone seen the red checkered backed before or Alan do you or have you seem them before. I've search since they were listed in the catalog about the red checkered board back but have never seen even a common. Just wondered if they are super rare or even 1/1 test printings or just not super collected to be listed all that often.
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Old 01-15-2015, 12:50 PM
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I will have to check...but I believe I have a red-tint Babe Ruth from this set somewhere. I don't remember what the card designation was but I believe it was an ace.
-Claude
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Old 01-15-2015, 08:35 PM
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Hi-
The Ruth is actually from a different set (at least as far as I can tell). There is also at least one set of nude women (it is fairly common), but no other similarly designed cards that I have found. If yours has a red back similar to these (or any back other than white) I would love to see a scan. Oddly, the joker is rare to find as well (it is not normally in the no team logo/white back common sealed set).

Regarding the red backs, I believe others exist but have never seen them. I cannot recall if I purchased this set unopened or opened, but I do know that if you stack them all together with the cardboard insert at the bottom (the way they came originally) you can definitely see a red tint, so it would look different than the normal packs (all white backs).

I believe that more do exist but because the set is priced so low (and looks so bad), I do not believe anyone ever cared enough to check. I believe they are scarcer than the white backs. I also believe a blue backed set exists somewhere, as I remember being told of one.
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