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Old 01-08-2015, 07:12 AM
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Default Ted.....

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where to begin.....


shall I unleash the circus???????


hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........





not sure if I want to ruin it before the 2016 national.....
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Old 01-08-2015, 07:27 AM
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Default btw.....

The scraps are INSANE!!

not to take away from the other cards...but WOW!!!

most scraps are only 1 of 1's....with some with "twins" or "sister" cards, with very few scraps ever had more than 4 twins!!! if you will, saved from the scrap sheet over 100 years ago....

Dunn is on another level....card was part of the design stage of the set....UNREAL!!! proofs will be explained more in the future...we are still researching them, and they are incredible

true pieces of "history" "works" of ART inmho....

WOW....

Hobby BB is also another incredible card...possibly involved with the design of the set...blank backs are one of the most under rated scrap/ back in the set inmho(biased of course)

these cards BLOW Doyle away in rarity....

6 to 8x rarer....

WOW...

you own one....you literally own a piece of history

INSANE CARDS
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The only two I own right now, but do have a 3 Finger Brown Polar bear PSA 4 on the way. Just started a T-206 PC
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George Bell (hands above) w/ OM back. I've only seen my graded and another raw in beater condition. I'm sure there are others out there but I only know of 2 so far.

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My favorite thread this year, so I thought I would see if anyone wanted to add to it. This CB is a tough front back combo.
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For the rarest non-scrap backs (e.g. Lenox, BL 460, Uzit) my take on things is that it is probably safe to assume that there are few-to-no cards that have 8+ examples. Do you agree with this? If I am correct, how far down the list of back rarity do we have to get before we start seeing it be likely that there are a good number of individual cards that have 8+ examples? Carolina Brights? Piedmont 350-460 42? Futher than that?
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Tough combo
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Old 01-08-2015, 07:30 AM
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Default I have a feeling this will....

be an AWESOME thread.............
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Old 01-08-2015, 07:55 AM
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When it is referred to as the rarest t206 that is a reference to the front variations only. If the t206 set was broke out by backs then the different combos would be worth using as a comparison, but since a t206 set collector isn't typically a master set collector there statement of "rarest t206" is only in regards to the front. If it didn't than even the Wagner and Plank Piedmonts would be considered rarer than the Doyle.
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Old 01-08-2015, 08:14 AM
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When it is referred to as the rarest t206 that is a reference to the front variations only. If the t206 set was broke out by backs then the different combos would be worth using as a comparison, but since a t206 set collector isn't typically a master set collector there statement of "rarest t206" is only in regards to the front. If it didn't than even the Wagner and Plank Piedmonts would be considered rarer than the Doyle.

I appreciate what you are saying; however, by your definition this Ambrose Puttman card can be considered the "rarest"....as it's back is irrelevant.

Furthermore, you refer to a "typical" T206 collector....it's been my experience dealing with many T206 collectors for the past 33 years....that after they have put together a
near complete T206 set....it doesn't stop there.

The Monster has you "addicted". Many collectors will continue the hunt for player sub-sets with all their possible backs. Or, team sets of players with all their possible backs.







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Old 01-08-2015, 09:55 AM
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I was waiting for it!!!!!!! send that to the resource proof gallery
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Old 01-08-2015, 10:18 AM
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As fronts variation this is 1 of 1image.jpg
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I appreciate what you are saying; however, by your definition this Ambrose Puttman card can be considered the "rarest"....as it's back is irrelevant.







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No by my definition that still wouldn't qualify. That is clearly a t206 proof, not a t206 that was to be mass produced but changed in the process (Like the Doyle and Magie).

[QUOTE=tedzan;1363972]

Furthermore, you refer to a "typical" T206 collector....it's been my experience dealing with many T206 collectors for the past 33 years....that after they have put together a
near complete T206 set....it doesn't stop there.

The Monster has you "addicted". Many collectors will continue the hunt for player sub-sets with all their possible backs. Or, team sets of players with all their possible backs.

TED Z

I didn't refer to a "typical" t206 collector. I referred to a typcial t206 set collector. In which case the set is defined by one of each front with exclusion to what is on the back. There are tough front/back combos but they come into play for other subsets, in which case new "rarities" are defined. For instance if you are trying to build a set of just the backs, you may say the Old Mill Brown is the rarest, and Piedmont 350 is the easiest to find even though a Shaw Piedmont 350 isn't easy. So you are mixing two thought processes.

Your original statement about the rarest t206 being the Doyle is made in reference to building a front set not in regards to a full Master Set with all the front and back combos.
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Old 01-08-2015, 01:41 PM
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Default Show your T206 card(s) that are more scarce than the JOE DOYLE NAT'L card

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No by my definition that still wouldn't qualify. That is clearly a t206 proof, not a t206 that was to be mass produced but changed in the process (Like the Doyle and Magie).


I didn't refer to a "typical" t206 collector. I referred to a typcial t206 set collector. In which case the set is defined by one of each front with exclusion to what is on the back.

Andy

"RARITY" .... is a function of a market driven phenomena. Therefore, it is collector based. And, there are a fair number of T206 collectors that seek certain front / back combos,
printing flaws, and yes...Proofs. I think you will agree that not all collectors strive to complete a 520-card (or whatever) T206 set.

Secondly, Sports and Non-Sports Sets since the 19th Century that are comprised of cards that have printing on their fronts and backs are defined by both factors. They cannot
be considered separate entities [i.e. Set A (fronts), Set B (backs)].


I do not want to get into a semantics discussion here. That's not the purpose of this thread. It was intended to have some fun showing off Net54er's various scarce T206 cards.


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