1870s? Score Sheet

[bgar3]

In his GAME OF BASE BALL 1868 on page 42 Chadwick defines muffins as "...title of a class of ball players who are both practically and theoretically unacquainted with the game." He adds that muffins are the lowest grade below first and second nines and amateurs.

[btcarfagno]

Going simply by the style of writing as well as the outs/runs I am thinking pre Civil War.

Tom C

[aelefson]

Thanks bgar3! I thought the term had to do with a subpar ball player but was not sure.

Thanks Tom! I would love it if it is indeed pre Civil War. I am hoping it is, but I am not sure if there is a way to prove it.

Thanks,
Alan

[aelefson]

Hi-
I am in the process of reading Preston Orem's 1845-1881 baseball book, and it appears that more detailed box scores started appearing in newspapers in about 1867-68. Is this an accurate statement? Any other opinions on the possible age of this score sheet?
Thanks in advance,
Alan

[ramram]

I've collected a few 19th century scorebooks going back as far as the 1860's and if I were to guess I'd put this sheet from the late 1860's. It seems that most "Muffin" teams that I have encountered were from the period shortly after the Civil War. The style of writing seems to fit there as well.

Rob M.

[swarmee]

Your "Hoipwell" is actually "Hipwell". The flourish is still part of the H.
The second Pitt may actually be Petty.

[aelefson]

Thanks John and Rob! I really appreciate both of your help with this.

Alan