The Curious Case Of The 1977 Hostess twinkies Cards

[David W]

Here are the Lou Brock's I have.

[darkhorse9]

Yep. Those are the standard Twinkie and the cupcake issues.

[paul]

OK. Here's a puzzle for you. The smaller one corresponds to your Bench. But what about the larger one? It's obviously a print freak, but it doesn't correspond to any of your sizes. And it has an extra blue bar. It has no folds, but it does have a fully printed back. My best guess is that this was planned to be the same size as your Bench, but the cutting process was never completed because it's a print freak. Or could there really be a seventh distinct size for these?

[darkhorse9]

I feel safe in saying that bottom Seaver is scrap. It was intended for the Type 3 group.

[sschauer]

Here are the Rose's I've had the regular twinkie and folded flap type 3 I've been told that type 2 were from Suzie Q's and type 3 were Ho-Hos type 4 is cupcakes type 5 or 6 is probably king dons.

[JTysver]

I know this is a long delay in this reply. Been working on this set and it's variations also. I often go back to this post to check variations.
I can attest that cards # 136-150 are all offered in Type 6.
I also have #29 and 30 in type 2.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by paul

OK. Here's a puzzle for you. The smaller one corresponds to your Bench. But what about the larger one? It's obviously a print freak, but it doesn't correspond to any of your sizes. And it has an extra blue bar. It has no folds, but it does have a fully printed back. My best guess is that this was planned to be the same size as your Bench, but the cutting process was never completed because it's a print freak. Or could there really be a seventh distinct size for these?

Bottom one is scrap and has a brown print offset. I would love to highly overpay/trade you for it.

EDIT: LOL just noticed how old that post was.

[JTysver]

There are quite a few cards which were printed in strips or on larger paper. I have to think these are printer proofs.

[Jim65]

Just thought I would contribute my Type 2 Kingman

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by JTysver

There are quite a few cards which were printed in strips or on larger paper. I have to think these are printer proofs.

I had previously posted similar observations regarding 1975 Twinkies.

http://www.m.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?p=1594036

The same dealer that purchased the 1975 Twinkies scrap, which contained numerous variations - what we would call printer scrap - also purchased other years including 1976-78. He indicated that due to its initial success, Intercontinental Baking wanted to expand the set in successive years and experimented with the basic 1977 design. I believe the cards JT referenced above are part of this experiment, including scrap with different parts of the base design offset to varying degrees.

In the initial conversation I had with him, he seemed to indicate most of what he purchased was scrap. I am surprised there isn't more of it floating around.

Z