14+Rose HOFer ball

[Lordstan]

1) I think they mostly look real, but I don't care as much for the Aaron.
2) Above Rose looks like Bill Freehan. Directly above Ferrell is Jim Northrup, but can't say for sure on the other.
3)While not 100% sure, I do think PSA will give a cert for the autos that they feel are real and document those they think aren't in the letter they provide.

Two above Ferrell - possibly John Hiller?

[bbcard1]

I hate that ball at the numbers you're talking about. Lots of badly faded autos with every possibility they will continue to fade. Of course, I am not a real auto collector, but I wouldn't touch regardless of authenticity and don't find it desirable at any price. But then again, I just spent around the same amount on a mid-grade set of 1950s baseball cards that he might easily feel the same way about. Eye of beholder.

Mantles are tough. I have known of good ones gotten in person that have come back as bad from JSA even though I know they were signed in person. Just so commonly forged it is natural for authenticators to err on the conservative side.

[earlywynnfan]

I agree with Todd! It's not my money, so really it's none of my business, but I don't think this is a $1500 ball by any means. No way it brings that from a major auction house. It has a bold Greenberg, but none of the other keys are exceptional.

Just my (usually worthless) opinion.

Ken

[Klrdds]

I am sorry but I do not see any appeal in this ball at any price. You have HOFers mixed with some lower tier players, and the signatures are fading and bleeding and will continue to do so with time. None of these players are rare or high priced signatures.
Whatever autographs you are wanting on this ball whether single signed or multi signed you can certainly wait and find better quality at a more competitive price than what this is being offered for with or without the cert.

[vthobby]

It is a $250 ball maybe on a GOOD day. UGH! To the person that got the ball, I'm sure there is more intrinsic value there but whoever would spend that kind of money on this baseball is crazy. The sigs are fine. The ball is not.

peace, mike

PS The ball is one of those crappy little league type baseballs so this was most likely a multi year experience at Cooperstown and at shows or games maybe. So once again, intrinsic value "yes", real value, a couple of hundred on a real sunny day in the spring when folks are yearning for baseball!

[RichardSimon]

Vtg is correct, that ball could be put on ebay and sit there till doomsday at $1000 or any price close to that. At best it is worth $250.

[CollectiblesNJ]

I would be a buyer on this ball at $250, I would bet if you get PSA that ball goes north of $600 on ebay. Def not worth a G though even to keep for yourself.

[valediction]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

Vtg is correct, that ball could be put on ebay and sit there till doomsday at $1000 or any price close to that. At best it is worth $250.

I agree. It's a mishmash ball. As Mike pointed out, the value is largely in the memories of the one who got the signatures. Anyone going to shows from the 1980's to today could have put that together. The fading makes it a tough sell, and none of the signatures are that tough. Add to that the fact that there is no theme to it. It's not a HOF ball, it's not a Detroit greats ball, though it has many elements of both. For the HOF collector it's missing a decent amount of easy guys that are no longer with us (Musial, Killebrew, Feller, Kiner, etc) For the Detroit collectors, how much would they pay for a ball with so many NON Detroit players, even if they are great?

[gashouse34]

Originally Posted by Klrdds

I am sorry but I do not see any appeal in this ball at any price. You have HOFers mixed with some lower tier players, and the signatures are fading and bleeding and will continue to do so with time. None of these players are rare or high priced signatures.
Whatever autographs you are wanting on this ball whether single signed or multi signed you can certainly wait and find better quality at a more competitive price than what this is being offered for with or without the cert.

Totally agree...I'm surprised some of the other signatures haven't faded/bled more than they have already. I completely avoid ever buying signed balls that are of cheap quality...no matter who has signed them. No doubt the signatures on this ball are going to get worse. I'd save my money until something better came along. Never heard of shellacking/coating a cheap ball before so don't know if that is even possible without major issues? Aside from that keeping it away from direct light, extreme temperatures and oxygen exposure is all you can do to prolong its demise (at least that i'm aware of).