Seller reference/review needed

[1952boyntoncollector]

I said they are not listed in his store..would be paypal..talking 12,000 range...

[Tao_Moko]

You remind me an awful lot of a previous board member.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Tao_Moko

You remind me an awful lot of a previous board member.

thanks for the very useful response.

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

I said they are not listed in his store..would be paypal..talking 12,000 range...

He understands that. Do you not understand what he's doing? Chris is looking at the guy's selling history on eBay, to see if he's ever sold high value vintage or pre-war cards before. If his history showed things like a 1952 Topps Eddie Mathews PSA graded, Play Ball Dimaggios, HGoudey Jimmie Foxxes, etc, that would at least show that he's dealt in high value cards before. All he's seeing are cards printed post year 2000 for the most part, and no cards costing over a few hundred bucks. Nothing to make him, or me, for that matter, expect this guy to suddenly have $12,000 of legit cards. It doesn't mean he couldn't have them, it just means historically he hasn't offered cards anywhere near that valuable before.

Originally Posted by Tao_Moko

You remind me an awful lot of a previous board member.

I was thinking the same thing.

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Where does a guy who deals primarily in new junk come up with a 52T Mathews in a 6? Wow.

Personally, I would not pay 12K to someone I didn't know or who wasn't well known to someone I trusted. Probably only a small risk, but why take one at all? Or buy one or two cards, and if it works out buy more.

Couldn't have said it better myself, Peter.

If this guy has a '52 Mantle, I'm asking some questions. I'm wanting to know how he came to own it. How long has he owned it? If he's owned it for a while, one would expect he has insurance on it to prevent against theft or fire damage. Can he show proof of ownership (provenance)? Can he show proof of insurance? There's no paper trail on eBay.

What we're all seeing here would be analogous to a Yugo dealer back in the 80s suddenly selling a Jaguar XJS worth more than every car on his lot.

Before you even think about committing that kind of money to a guy that you know nothing about, and thus far, none of us have ever heard of, you best do your homework.

Me? I wouldn't risk buying a '52 Topps Mantle from him, not when there are several available from sellers that I already know beyond a shadow of a doubt are reputable. It's just not smart business practice.

[CardboardCollector]

For that kind of money, I'd take a road trip to look at it in person.

[1952boyntoncollector]

well the Matthews that I wasn't talking about..is on ebay..so if its not real you would think you would get your money back..

[Peter_Spaeth]

What does he claim to have that is not on ebay? The Mathews I think will go very high due to the phenomenal centering.

[1952boyntoncollector]

whats very high..9k? for the Matthews?

[Leon]

He has some rare cards up....http://www.ebay.com/sch/exquisitecar..._sop=10&_rdc=1

I think he is probably fine by looking at his feedback. But if it helps and it's going to be a lot of money, ask him some questions and see how he responds.



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[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

What does he claim to have that is not on ebay? The Mathews I think will go very high due to the phenomenal centering.

card sold for 6400...100 less than SMR and less recorded sale on cardtarget....

[ALR-bishop]

No one reminds me of anyone anymore

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by CardboardCollector

For that kind of money, I'd take a road trip to look at it in person.

That could get expensive, the seller lives in Hawaii!

mike

[CardboardCollector]

Originally Posted by CardboardCollector

For that kind of money, I'd take a road trip to look at it in person.

Originally Posted by vtgmsc

That could get expensive, the seller lives in Hawaii!

mike

Paradise with a card I wanted, what more could one ask for.

[Paul S]

Originally Posted by CardboardCollector

Paradise with a card I wanted, what more could one ask for.

The problem is, he lives inside a volcano

[Tao_Moko]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

thanks for the very useful response.

I don't usually have a very useful response.

You might want to dig around some of our reputable members and see if you can source the same card/s without buying from a source that you have questions about on ebay. Is there something that is rare enough that you may not come across another anytime soon?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Where does a guy who deals primarily in new junk come up with a 52T Mathews in a 6? Wow.

Personally, I would not pay 12K to someone I didn't know or who wasn't well known to someone I trusted. Probably only a small risk, but why take one at all? Or buy one or two cards, and if it works out buy more.