The most grossly overrated card of all time...

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by jason.1969

Another class of cards I think are overrated are PSA 9s and 10s. When I look at the sharp and centered 1975 set that Bill is building, with many PSA 8s, I just can't fathom how distinctions largely requiring a loupe to spot would justify 10x markups to price. I understand there is a rarity issue, but I regard this form of rarity as artificial. Were it not for the grading service assigning a numeral, I think we would generally view all cards in the PSA 8-10 spectrum as much, much more alike than different, perhaps only deciding on the rarest occasion that one looks ever so slightly better than the other and warrants a 10% markup.

Never understood how the hobby guys on Net54 look down on the PSA 10's of the post war car. PSA did a great favor to the hobby to help find rarity in non rare cards. PSA is here to stay.

Saying 'were it not for the grading service assigning a numeral' that the cards would be graded the same....perhaps..but without Jordan or Pippen, the Bulls don't win 6 championships......the grading service assigning a numeral cant be discounted..its a huge thing...just like pippen and Jordan...

[1952boyntoncollector]

the reason the 51 bowman mantle has picked up is because the 52 topps mantle is picked up even more.....

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Never understood how the hobby guys on Net54 look down on the PSA 10's of the post war car. PSA did a great favor to the hobby to help find rarity in non rare cards. PSA is here to stay.

Saying 'were it not for the grading service assigning a numeral' that the cards would be graded the same....perhaps..but without Jordan or Pippen, the Bulls don't win 6 championships......the grading service assigning a numeral cant be discounted..its a huge thing...just like pippen and Jordan...

My issue is that the grade of 10 versus 9 is essentially arbitrary -- and some would say, probably with some justification, political. Crack some 9s and 10s out of holders, regrade them, and the results will be completely different. If you don't believe me, do it.

[Republicaninmass]

Going to crack some PSA 10s



BRB

[1952boyntoncollector]

expert opinions are always arbitrary....

its better than the alternative....heck every psa 5 on ebay the dealer says 'due for a bump, undergraded' every card that's raw that looks almost mint will be sold as mint..

people pay for the holder 'gasp' it happens...you don't need to keep submitting a cracked card if you already have a psa 10...theres value in that...

without a psa 10 or psa 9.... this is the scenario..

right now you can have maybe 54 1988 topps psa 9s and 44 psa 10s....but with no grading company we now have 2440 raw cards that are arguably 'MINT'....really lowers the value when the POP goes from 98 to 2440

for people not into grading..shouldn't be a big deal...they can buy away on raw cards or get the psa grade that's low enough they are getting it cheap.cause others don't want it in that grade..

i just think overall the psa grades is great for the hobby..and even better for the dealers......i just don't see why people complain..its win win...buy the cheaper psa cards or buy raw and you no longer competing in the graded environment..


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[Peter_Spaeth]

Oh I agree, it doesn't have to affect anyone, I am just saying don't buy into the notion of significant merits differences between 9s and 10s.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

expert opinions are always arbitrary....

its better than the alternative....heck every psa 5 on ebay the dealer says 'due for a bump, undergraded' every card that's raw that looks almost mint will be sold as mint..

people pay for the holder 'gasp' it happens...you don't need to keep submitting a cracked card if you already have a psa 10...theres value in that...

without a psa 10 or psa 9.... this is the scenario..

right now you can have maybe 54 1988 topps psa 9s and 44 psa 10s....but with no grading company we now have 2440 raw cards that are arguably 'MINT'....really lowers the value when the POP goes from 98 to 2440

for people not into grading..shouldn't be a big deal...they can buy away on raw cards or get the psa grade that's low enough they are getting it cheap.cause others don't want it in that grade..

i just think overall the psa grades is great for the hobby..and even better for the dealers......i just don't see why people complain..its win win...buy the cheaper psa cards or buy raw and you no longer competing in the graded environment..


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It's artificial scarcity. Two or three people can look at a card and agree about the grade. If you buy a Mint card off of Ebay and you don't agree with the grade, send it back. It doesn't matter if PSA/SCG/BCS say it's an X.x. If I don't agree, I don't want it. I see T-cards graded 5 that I'd never put in my collection, but I just bought a 3. It just boiled down to who sent the card in.

You can talk about what good grading companies have done, but they've done as much bad. They grade fake/trimmed cards. They sell grades to "favored" dealers. That's the only way that I can explain 2s in 5 holders. Then you can never own the card unless you grossly over pay.

I can attest to the crack and send it in until you get the grade. I know a dealer who sent a card, received an 8, cracked it, sent it in and got a 10. So, if there is no difference between an 8 and 10, what the OP said was correct, 9s and 10s are just overpriced 8s.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I am seeing a LOT of SGC cards these days that, to my mind, look overgraded. Particularly 5s and 6s.

[Econteachert205]

I'll throw my hat in the ring with the 1990 topps George bush card. Mediocre president meets mediocre card equals gold. Now an Eisenhower 52 topps high series...