Dealer mad for good reason?

Peter_Spaeth · #1 11-25-2014, 09:31 AM

I get lowball offers all the time and while I'm not offended, I don't understand the point either. Offering 50 percent of what a card regularly sells for is not, in my view, a good faith negotiation.

Leon · #2 11-25-2014, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I get lowball offers all the time and while I'm not offended, I don't understand the point either. Offering 50 percent of what a card regularly sells for is not, in my view, a good faith negotiation.

I have had offers of 50% countered at 60% and bought the item. I have had a million low ball offers made on my items and have never been offended. Other things offend me, low ball offers not so much.

Peter_Spaeth · #3 11-25-2014, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon

I have had offers of 50% countered at 60% and bought the item. I have had a million low ball offers made on my items and have never been offended. Other things offend me, low ball offers not so much.

60 percent of the list or 60 percent of what the card regularly sells for?

Leon · #4 11-25-2014, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

60 percent of the list or 60 percent of what the card regularly sells for?

I don't make low ball offers on stuff that generally sells. You forget what I collect.

slidekellyslide · #5 11-25-2014, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon

I have had offers of 50% countered at 60% and bought the item. I have had a million low ball offers made on my items and have never been offended. Other things offend me, low ball offers not so much.

I usually just laugh...I get $1 offers all the time on my items in my store listed at $9.99 OBO...I send them back $9.98 counter offers.

I also do not understand the majority of offers I get on my items end with .99...does the prospective buyer not understand the psychology of offering one penny more is more likely to get him/her the item?

And in the "Did you know" category, did you know that you can offer MORE than the listed Buy It Now? A lady offered me $11 on a $9.99 item...I accepted it just to see if it actually would accept her offer and it did. I threw a dollar bill into her package.

Runscott · #6 11-25-2014, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

And in the "Did you know" category, did you know that you can offer MORE than the listed Buy It Now? A lady offered me $11 on a $9.99 item...I accepted it just to see if it actually would accept her offer and it did. I threw a dollar bill into her package.

Dan, you just made my day. Great story.

edjs · #7 11-25-2014, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

I usually just laugh...I get $1 offers all the time on my items in my store listed at $9.99 OBO...I send them back $9.98 counter offers.

I also do not understand the majority of offers I get on my items end with .99...does the prospective buyer not understand the psychology of offering one penny more is more likely to get him/her the item?

And in the "Did you know" category, did you know that you can offer MORE than the listed Buy It Now? A lady offered me $11 on a $9.99 item...I accepted it just to see if it actually would accept her offer and it did. I threw a dollar bill into her package.

ebay is so strange. I saw a $15 Starbucks gift card bid up to $18 plus $3 shipping. Things that make you go "Huh?"

Peter_Spaeth · #8 11-25-2014, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by edjs

ebay is so strange. I saw a $15 Starbucks gift card bid up to $18 plus $3 shipping. Things that make you go "Huh?"

That happens a lot on iTunes gift cards, they go for more than the face value. Part of it might be the convenience factor of not having to go to a store to make the purchase?

Fred · #9 11-25-2014, 03:02 PM

Ok, so we're into funny stories about fleabay sales. Here's a good one.... this is before the days of "best offer" and crap like that.

D304 Cobb, SGC10. If they had half grades back then, they'd have given it a .5 instead of a 1. It was pathetically ugly, but it was real/authentic. I had a couple of D304 Cobbs and the one I was going to sell was really fugly.

I put it on ebay for $1200 (opening bid). I got ZERO interest in it.

A couple of months later I put it up for bid at $1400. I get an email saying they'd like to buy it for $1200. I decline. The card doesn't sell at $1400.

A couple of months later I put it up for bid at $1600. I get an email saying they'd like to buy it for $1400. I decline. The card doesn't sell at $1600.

A couple of months later I put it up for bid at $1800. I get an email saying they'd like to buy it for $1600. I decline. The card doesn't sell at $1800.

Finally, I sell it for about $2000 on ebay.

During the time I tried to sell the card and received the diffrent offers I never once became indignant or nasty or indicated they should have bought it the last time it was up for sale. I politely declined the offers. I just didn't care if I sold the card or not. Perhaps some of those dealers (I'm not a dealer) just don't care if they're over priced. On the flip side, if I'm a seller all I have to do is say NO or just not respond to the offer. I think ebay provides the ability for the seller to counter. To me, there's no use in getting upset if an offer is considered "low ball". In any case, as a dealer it's easier to just say NO or ignore the offer. Why be dikk about it?

If someone wants to "reason" with the seller, then that's fine, just be nice about it. And if the seller declines, then that's their choice.

insccollectibles · #10 11-25-2014, 03:53 PM

Don't worry about it. I get a ton of low ball offers and it never offends me. If we cant agree no problem just move on to the next deal.

auggiedoggy · #11 11-25-2014, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I get lowball offers all the time and while I'm not offended, I don't understand the point either. Offering 50 percent of what a card regularly sells for is not, in my view, a good faith negotiation.

I've had lowball offers way less than 50% of the asking price. Damn right I get offended at those types of offers. I'm not running a goddamn charity.

prestigecollectibles · #12 11-25-2014, 11:15 PM

I have an early 1970s Trader Speaks on eBay (BIN) with Best Offer. It was priced at $18 and I offer free shipping. I got an offer of $3 which I declined then $4.50 which I ignored and now $5 which I will ignore. I am surprised he didn't offer that I send it for free and pay him as well.

Jeffrompa · #13 11-25-2014, 11:59 PM

I never get offended when someone offers me money . Even if it starts out low it's no big deal .

Huysmans · #14 11-26-2014, 12:21 AM

Dealers offended? Really? If I walked into a card shop with 200$ worth of cards and told the dealer I'd like 30$, what would most dealers do? Tell me that they should be giving me much more, or would most just shake their head in agreement and hand me my 30$? In my years of experience, the latter would happen in most cases. That's what anyone in the secondhand business tries to do regardless of what the product is.... Buy as low as you can and sell high! And EVERYONE tries to get a deal, so when I hear sellers and dealers say they're offended if the receive an offer under retail, I find it ridiculous and hypocritical.
.....buck up! We're all big boys here, let's try to remember this should be a fun hobby, and not everything is business.

Have a great day and enjoy collecting! 😁

iwantitiwinit · #15 11-26-2014, 06:43 AM

I would expect that any buyers attempt to purchase a card would be made with the goal of buying that card for the lowest amount possible. To act any other way would be non-sensical and ignorant. In my opinion, anyone that is offended by that is not truly trying to sell the card. Secondly, who cares what the dealer thinks, the dealer should be more concerned with what a potential buyer thinks. Move on.

Huysmans · #16 11-26-2014, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

i would expect that any buyers attempt to purchase a card would be made with the goal of buying that card for the lowest amount possible. To act any other way would be non-sensical and ignorant. In my opinion, anyone that is offended by that is not truly trying to sell the card. Secondly, who cares what the dealer thinks, the dealer should be more concerned with what a potential buyer thinks. Move on.

👏 👏 👏

I Only Smoke 4 the Cards · #17 11-26-2014, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

I would expect that any buyers attempt to purchase a card would be made with the goal of buying that card for the lowest amount possible. To act any other way would be non-sensical and ignorant. In my opinion, anyone that is offended by that is not truly trying to sell the card. Secondly, who cares what the dealer thinks, the dealer should be more concerned with what a potential buyer thinks. Move on.

I think is true in single-shot transactions (if I don't expect to deal with you again). However, if I want to establish a relationship with you then I may be willing a slightly higher price in order to ensure access to future cards.

Jantz · #18 11-27-2014, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Huysmans

Dealers offended? Really? If I walked into a card shop with 200$ worth of cards and told the dealer I'd like 30$, what would most dealers do? Tell me that they should be giving me much more, or would most just shake their head in agreement and hand me my 30$? In my years of experience, the latter would happen in most cases. That's what anyone in the secondhand business tries to do regardless of what the product is.... Buy as low as you can and sell high! And EVERYONE tries to get a deal, so when I hear sellers and dealers say they're offended if the receive an offer under retail, I find it ridiculous and hypocritical.
.....buck up! We're all big boys here, let's try to remember this should be a fun hobby, and not everything is business.

Have a great day and enjoy collecting! ��

Well I'll probably sound like an ass for saying this, but not EVERYONE is trying to get a deal.

Some collectors realize that they are going to have to pay to get the cards they want for their collection.

Jantz

Huysmans · #19 11-28-2014, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jantz

Well I'll probably sound like an ass for saying this, but not EVERYONE is trying to get a deal.

Some collectors realize that they are going to have to pay to get the cards they want for their collection.

Jantz

Hey Jantz,

So if you see two of the same card in the same grade and one is much cheaper... You buy the more expensive one?? Really?? I don't think so. Again, EVERYONE tries to get the best deal they can. Will you pay out the ass for a card you really want? Of course! But you'll still TRY to get the card for the lowest amount possible, no?
Unless you're completely made of money I guess.. which must be nice! 😝

Regards,
Brent

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