Ron and Khyber Oser leave Legendary for Huggins

[Jay Wolt]

Originally Posted by turtleguy64

and to boot a now brewing controversy as they pulled their feature item-rookie Gretsky game uniform -out of the catalogue just as the final day of bidding was starting. It's over.

But the Gretzky jersey is still up on auction and ends in 27 days

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/197...LOT169421.aspx

[turtleguy64]

true,but as Legendary noted in pulling the jersey until Dec.,they are doing more research.a little late for that when it's your featured money getter in the auction.

[ksabet]

On the flip side it also seems like a strong move for H&S. The guys there are great and just got better.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by ksabet

On the flip side it also seems like a strong move for H&S. The guys there are great and just got better.

Are the Osers photo guys?

[Exhibitman]

With apologies to The Clash:
I've been very tempted to grab it from the till.
I've been very hungry but not enough to shill.

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Are the Osers photo guys?

Khyber is

[1952boyntoncollector]

Still amazes me to hear people saying an auction like robert edwards that advertises and has a member list of the people who buy old cards ends up selling a card at 'rock bottom prices' easy for a seller to say that..

but as a buyer i would say thats 'market price' for that piece of cardboard..thats the highest bid..not on craiglist in a sale in a mother's attic..but on an internet weeks long auction with the most well heeled people bidding..

now you could say 'market price without shill bidding'..

i do wonder if you shill bid and 'win' your item.what happens? you just pay 20% and keep your card? that seems to take all of the market price profit out of it..

[bbcard1]

As to the shilling question, I'd never do it. Probably half the stuff i have consigned at auction houses have sold for less than I would have paid for it...of course the other half is where the good stuff happens.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Still amazes me to hear people saying an auction like robert edwards that advertises and has a member list of the people who buy old cards ends up selling a card at 'rock bottom prices' easy for a seller to say that..

but as a buyer i would say thats 'market price' for that piece of cardboard..thats the highest bid..not on craiglist in a sale in a mother's attic..but on an internet weeks long auction with the most well heeled people bidding..

now you could say 'market price without shill bidding'..

i do wonder if you shill bid and 'win' your item.what happens? you just pay 20% and keep your card? that seems to take all of the market price profit out of it..

Market price is NOT the result of a single auction. You can argue all day about that one, but it simply isn't true. I sold an item for $3,100 that had previously sold at least twice for $6,000 or more. The market price didn't go from $6,000 to $3,100 overnight. If the card were put back in auction tomorrow with a reserve of $6,000 and I bid and won it back, would that change the market value back to $6,000? No.

REA is not any more immune to auction anomalies than any other auction house. They have things that we have seen go for twice what we thought market value is. And yes, they have had things go for rock bottom prices.

What happens if you (or one of your shillers) win your own auction? You get to keep owning it.

[thecatspajamas]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Are the Osers photo guys?

Khyber is listed as one of the co-authors on A Portrait of Baseball Photography. I always kind of assumed it was more as an editor assembling the book itself, correcting spelling/grammar, etc as I believe he was listed as being in college at the time (I don't have the book in front of me, so am going from memory here, which always gets me in trouble). Anyway, that is to say that he at least has some history with photos, and it would make sense for his interest to continue beyond that work.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by thecatspajamas

Khyber is listed as one of the co-authors on A Portrait of Baseball Photography. I always kind of assumed it was more as an editor assembling the book itself, correcting spelling/grammar, etc as I believe he was listed as being in college at the time (I don't have the book in front of me, so am going from memory here, which always gets me in trouble). Anyway, that is to say that he at least has some history with photos, and it would make sense for his interest to continue beyond that work.

Good, so hopefully no more 'wishful thinking' false starts;e.g-Rusie, Jackson, etc.

[1952boyntoncollector]

i never said i shill...i was just explaining the issues involved and the fact shilling sort of solves itself with educated buyers and bp that people have to pay if buying their own stuf....i keeps seeing comments that i am shilling..i have never stated that....stop assuming things....