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Old 11-19-2014, 07:39 AM
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To me the grading is fishy and definitely odd but the difference in sale prices are irrelevant. Once you've sold your card, it doesn't matter what it sells for the next time.

Not sure I buy the rest of the story as it is depicted. This person was a collector and not an inheritor of a collection. I would never walk out of an office without proper paperwork for even my modest and low-budget collection. I would assume he'd be just as passionate about his expensive one.

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Old 11-19-2014, 08:37 AM
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Once you've sold your card, it doesn't matter what it sells for the next time.
Well, it does matter if the letter is true and Mastro and his goons concocted a scheme to not auction the cards properly, obtain the cards below market value due to fraud and then sell them at a profit.
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Well, it does matter if the letter is true and Mastro and his goons concocted a scheme to not auction the cards properly, obtain the cards below market value due to fraud and then sell them at a profit.
I am not defending Mastro at all, he and his bunch will have a lot of time to think about what they did...and not much else to do while doing it.

That being said this guy's story sounds crazy to me.
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While reading the story I believed there wasn't a lot of substantiating evidence, just a lot of emotion. If there was evidence than it wasn't very well articulated.

He does claim an FBI agent does know more about the case including a list, but if the gentleman writing the letter can't confirm ownership of the cards I don't see how he can expect restitution.

That said I can believe that what he claims happened is true, but I wouldn't find anybody guilty off this letter alone.
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Count me among the dubious ones. The letter is incredibly poorly written, especially for an alleged attorney. Were there shenanegans going on at Mastro? Undoubtedly, but these allegations really stretch credibility.
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I am not defending Mastro at all, he and his bunch will have a lot of time to think about what they did...and not much else to do while doing it.

That being said this guy's story sounds crazy to me.
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Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes:

“The public regards lawyers with great distrust. They think lawyers are smarter than the average guy but use their intelligence deviously. Well, they're wrong. Usually they are not smarter.”
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Well, it does matter if the letter is true and Mastro and his goons concocted a scheme to not auction the cards properly, obtain the cards below market value due to fraud and then sell them at a profit.
My 2 cents but I'll gladly let the lawyers speak to correct me. (assuming what the was in the letter was accurate)

I believe the fraud was committed on the purchase, not on the sale. The sale would not even had to have taken place in order for fraud to have been committed. My guess would be the sale only makes the intent to defraud more 'provable'.

Fraud would have been committed on the sale if the sellers purported the item to be something it was not, which I don't believe happened here (assuming card was unaltered, etc). So in this case, it doesn't matter what the card sold for. Nor would it at any re-sale of any item, assuming fraud is not involved in the actual SALE of the item itself.
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